MotoGP: Italy (spoilers al dente)

Discussion in 'Racing' started by Lurky-Loo, May 29, 2013.

  1. Lurky-Loo

    Lurky-Loo Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2009
    Oddometer:
    445
    yooperbikemike is snoozing, so ...

    It's easy to say a win at Mugello will be crucial to Lorenzo (given the way Pedrosa was looking really shaky just two rounds in, and two rounds after that started looking like the favorite again). But after Lorenzo's poor race at Le Mans, Mugello might well show whether he will be able to slow or stop the gap to the factory Hondas. If the track is cool (unlike Jerez, where the heat supposedly took away the M1 edge-grip advantage), and Lorenzo doesn't finish strongly, I imagine there's going to be a sense of doom in the Yamaha team.
    #1
  2. Skowinski

    Skowinski Eukaryote

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2009
    Oddometer:
    8,505
    Location:
    Terra Firma
    Yeah, but there's that Rossi fella who is gonna win for Yamaha.

    :hide
    #2
  3. BOOTLACE

    BOOTLACE Bikie Scum.

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2005
    Oddometer:
    6,516
    Location:
    Methane Central..(Sth Gippsland)
    It's actually still quite chilly here. Winter is hanging on.....

    [​IMG]:D
    #3
  4. Kropotkin

    Kropotkin Big Girl's Blouse

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2003
    Oddometer:
    9,221
    Location:
    Dieren, The Low Low Lands of Holland
    It's going to rain, on Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Sunday, not so sure. This could end up saving Yamaha, as I think otherwise, they could get spanked by Honda. Badly.
    #4
  5. BOOTLACE

    BOOTLACE Bikie Scum.

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2005
    Oddometer:
    6,516
    Location:
    Methane Central..(Sth Gippsland)
    In fact the route through the western alps was aborted due to the weather, and had to face the prospect of being gassed in a bloody tunnel!

    [​IMG]

    Still, the scooter GP goes on. And I love it!

    [​IMG]
    #5
  6. BOOTLACE

    BOOTLACE Bikie Scum.

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2005
    Oddometer:
    6,516
    Location:
    Methane Central..(Sth Gippsland)
    Really Krop, I didn't want to hear that.....best I find a high camp site early, huh?
    #6
  7. spezjag

    spezjag Long timer

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2004
    Oddometer:
    11,033
    Location:
    Northern Virginia, USA
    And on high ground! :lol3
    #7
  8. DogBoy

    DogBoy Not a Gnarly Adventurer

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2003
    Oddometer:
    2,108
    Location:
    Sacramento, CA
    Love this track. Love the wild front "straight" with kinks and dips at very high speeds, plus all those cool uphill esses and every other damn thing about Moo-Jello.

    Video of Yamaha on-board lap. (You can simulate a Ducati on-board lap by freezing the video for two seconds at the entry to each corner. :D )

    <iframe width="853" height="480" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/AiAR-NaOcto" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
    #8
  9. Lurky-Loo

    Lurky-Loo Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2009
    Oddometer:
    445
    I can only hope if it does rain it's as good a race as Le Mans -- there was a lot of passing there for a wet race. And for the championship's sake, that Lorenzo takes it.
    #9
  10. Pecha72

    Pecha72 Long timer

    Joined:
    May 5, 2008
    Oddometer:
    6,152
    Location:
    Helsinki, Finland
    Mugello is one of the greatest tracks, a delight to watch even on the telly. Right there with Phillip Island and Laguna Seca. I went to Mugello in 2006, seeing that place live, it´s even better.

    Yamaha must be worried, Lorenzo needs to bounce back quickly, but Honda seem to have the momentum now. And on the other side of that garage, Rossi must be worried, that if he gets his behind handed to him by his team-mate here, it´s gonna happen everywhere. 4 out of 4 rounds already, not looking good for him.
    #10
  11. yety61

    yety61 Global Vagabond

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2010
    Oddometer:
    1,280
    Location:
    The Big Island in the Pacific
    Righto, I'll start,

    Pedrosa
    Lorenzo
    Rossi
    Marquez
    Crutchlow
    Someone else


    And if it rains, who knows. :lol3
    #11
  12. yety61

    yety61 Global Vagabond

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2010
    Oddometer:
    1,280
    Location:
    The Big Island in the Pacific
    Oh, and Bootlace, looking forward to your photo's. :clap
    #12
  13. BOOTLACE

    BOOTLACE Bikie Scum.

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2005
    Oddometer:
    6,516
    Location:
    Methane Central..(Sth Gippsland)
    Having serious difficulty with connections. Hope to have it sorted by then, but it's looking dodgy.....as is the weather!:huh
    #13
  14. Skowinski

    Skowinski Eukaryote

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2009
    Oddometer:
    8,505
    Location:
    Terra Firma
    Well, at the least you are in Italy at the MotoGP, bad weather or not, and I'm going to work this morning, so count yer blessings mate... And, it's not the weather that's dodgy, it's you ya mongrel! :lol3

    (looking forward to some pics as well...)
    #14
  15. BOOTLACE

    BOOTLACE Bikie Scum.

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2005
    Oddometer:
    6,516
    Location:
    Methane Central..(Sth Gippsland)
    Yep! Can't argue with any of that!:D

    Hey rock doc, here's something for ya........


    http://fredgassit.tripod.com/.
    #15
  16. mdubya

    mdubya Right Brigade

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2005
    Oddometer:
    7,219
    Location:
    western, MD
    This is going to be a good one. Yamaha has problems, Honda is confident, Ducati just tested here less than 2 weeks ago, Vale has something to prove, Iannone is injured but feeling confident, Spies is back, Hayden says Mugello was his best race last year, Dovi was third last year, Crutchlow is the man of the moment in many ways, Dani quietly leads the world, Marquez???, Pirro is wild carding on the lab bike....

    [​IMG]
    #16
  17. BOOTLACE

    BOOTLACE Bikie Scum.

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2005
    Oddometer:
    6,516
    Location:
    Methane Central..(Sth Gippsland)
    I am here! MM just had big, and strange, crash! Smith also. Apparently both are OK. Neither looked too flash....VR looks like he's on a mission. Already the crowd is going off! And the chainsaws have started. It's gunna be a loooong night.
    #17
  18. mdubya

    mdubya Right Brigade

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2005
    Oddometer:
    7,219
    Location:
    western, MD
    Marquez had a huge crash in FP2, braking from over 200 MPH into turn 1 (San Donato) on the brakes. He appears to have escaped serious injury. He is undergoing further checks to be sure.

    Bradly Smith had a heavy crash also at turn 7 (Savelli) and appears to have injured his left arm. More to come.

    FP 2 results

    Pos. Num. Rider Nation Team Bike Km/h Time Gap 1st/Prev.
    1 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha 341.6 1'48.375
    2 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha 339.4 1'48.409 0.034 / 0.034
    3 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 337.8 1'48.672 0.297 / 0.263
    4 69 Nicky HAYDEN USA Ducati Team Ducati 338.4 1'49.377 1.002 / 0.705
    5 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 340.0 1'49.383 1.008 / 0.006
    6 29 Andrea IANNONE ITA Energy T.I. Pramac Racing Ducati 340.6 1'49.467 1.092 / 0.084
    7 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Ducati Team Ducati 338.8 1'49.543 1.168 / 0.076
    8 6 Stefan BRADL GER LCR Honda MotoGP Honda 338.9 1'49.595 1.220 / 0.052
    9 14 Randy DE PUNIET FRA Power Electronics Aspar ART 322.4 1'49.599 1.224 / 0.004
    10 51 Michele PIRRO ITA Ducati Test Team Ducati 340.1 1'49.649 1.274 / 0.050
    11 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SPA GO&FUN Honda Gresini Honda 338.8 1'49.733 1.358 / 0.084
    12 41 Aleix ESPARGARO SPA Power Electronics Aspar ART 326.3 1'49.769 1.394 / 0.036
    13 38 Bradley SMITH GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 335.2 1'50.103 1.728 / 0.334
    14 93 Marc MARQUEZ SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 342.0 1'50.210 1.835 / 0.107
    15 8 Hector BARBERA SPA Avintia Blusens FTR 320.6 1'50.400 2.025 / 0.190
    16 11 Ben SPIES USA Ignite Pramac Racing Ducati 340.9 1'51.105 2.730 / 0.705
    17 5 Colin EDWARDS USA NGM Mobile Forward Racing FTR Kawasaki 323.5 1'51.433 3.058 / 0.328
    18 17 Karel ABRAHAM CZE Cardion AB Motoracing ART 325.8 1'51.528 3.153 / 0.095
    19 68 Yonny HERNANDEZ COL Paul Bird Motorsport ART 322.9 1'51.644 3.269 / 0.116
    20 9 Danilo PETRUCCI ITA Came IodaRacing Project Ioda-Suter 322.0 1'51.937 3.562 / 0.293
    21 7 Hiroshi AOYAMA JPN Avintia Blusens FTR 320.9 1'52.182 3.807 / 0.245
    22 71 Claudio CORTI ITA NGM Mobile Forward Racing FTR Kawasaki 326.3 1'53.314 4.939 / 1.132
    23 70 Michael LAVERTY GBR Paul Bird Motorsport PBM 321.8 1'53.480 5.105 / 0.166
    24 67 Bryan STARING AUS GO&FUN Honda Gresini FTR Honda 324.4 1'54.231 5.856 / 0.751
    25 52 Lukas PESEK CZE Came IodaRacing Project Ioda-Suter 312.0 1'54.829 6.454 / 0.598
    #18
  19. mdubya

    mdubya Right Brigade

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2005
    Oddometer:
    7,219
    Location:
    western, MD
    HRC via @motomatters

    #19
  20. mdubya

    mdubya Right Brigade

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2005
    Oddometer:
    7,219
    Location:
    western, MD
    Results from a wet but drying FP1 for comparison.

    Pos. Rider Team Bike Time
    1 Marc Marquez Repsol Honda Team Honda 1:54.797
    2 Michele Pirro Ducati Team Ducati 1:55.195
    3 Stefan Bradl LCR Honda Honda 1:55.288
    4 Karel Abraham Cardion AB Motoracing ART 1:55.874
    5 Yonny Hernandez Paul Bird Motorsport ART 1:55.907
    6 Bradley Smith Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 1:55.981
    7 Nicky Hayden Ducati Team Ducati 1:55.991
    8 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team Honda 1:56.534
    9 Cal Crutchlow Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 1:56.984
    10 Ben Spies Ignite Pramac Racing Ducati 1:57.045
    11 Alvaro Bautista Go&Fun Honda Gresini Honda 1:57.910
    12 Aleix Espargaro Power Electronics Aspar ART 1:58.075
    13 Andrea Iannone Energy T.I. Pramac Racing Ducati 1:58.478
    14 Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha 2:00.174
    15 Andrea Dovizioso Ducati Team Ducati 2:00.457
    16 Hiroshi Aoyama Avintia Blusens FTR 2:00.801
    17 Colin Edwards NGM Mobile Forward Racing FTR Kawasaki 2:01.082
    18 Randy De Puniet Power Electronics Aspar ART 2:01.108
    19 Valentino Rossi Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha 2:01.455
    20 Hector Barbera Avintia Blusens FTR 2:02.673
    #20