MotoGP: Italy (spoilers al dente)

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  1. Moronic

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    I have a feeling we will see more MM crashes, and won't have to wait long for them.

    The path to self-understanding has certain twists and turns that can't be short-cut, or so it seems. Appears it is the turn of Marquez to demonstrate that.
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  2. RaY YreKa

    RaY YreKa Palanquins RTW

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    +1; every commentator I listened to, including Spies, said it was a racing incident, no blame.

    and GO CAL.
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  3. ErikY.

    ErikY. Here, Now.

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    "You can't buy patina", yes?
    Hopefully he will remain healthy as he earns it. This weekend watching him in QP I noticed I had a shit-eating grin whenever he was on the screen :D

    "Smooth" ala JLo and Rossi is nice, but I prefer his kind of riding.
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  4. ErikY.

    ErikY. Here, Now.

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    Maybe Vale should tell him his ambition outweighed his talent?
    I don't see fault there.
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  5. Pecha72

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    MM did very well in the race up until he crashed (.... afterall that was his 4th crash of the weekend I think, and those before, including the huge one on the main straight,that caused some injuries, appeared not to have slowed him down at all).

    But yeah, it was to be expected he'll make a mistake in a race some time.
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  6. Dexter!

    Dexter! Been here awhile

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    What pisses me off of that incident is Bautista "saying" to the camera that Vale straighten up his bike and rammed him... WTF Alvaro WTF?

    MM going down is like a wait to happen momment, he was already in the 2nd place, why would you try to push it harder knowing that you're 4 secs behind and there's just 3 laps to the checkered?

    OTOH when will Pedrosa grow a pair and stop chickening out when he has someone behind or gets passed? WTF is wrong with this guy, he's got the talent to win the title, but not the guts...
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  7. Pecha72

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    Did you see the helicopter view on it? At least it showed, that Vale is clearly ahead of Alvaro coming out of the left-hander, and there's no way Vale could see that A. is making that move. To me, that looked a bit bone-headed.

    Spies knows this stuff way better than I do, though. Let's see what race direction says.
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  8. RedRocket

    RedRocket Yeah! I want Cheesy Poofs

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    With a dye-job like that it's obvious that his judgement is clouded.
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  9. Drif10

    Drif10 Accredited Jackass

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    More freeze and thaw on the feed during the race.

    Reflects well on TIM, the title sponsor, don't it?

    Dovi did well for being pretty bent.

    Cal again on the podium. And Yamaha are keeping Smith and hiring EsP? Yeah, good management there.
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  10. Old fart

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    MM doesn't seem to be getting much criticism for his antics compared to what Marco received?
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  11. Lurky-Loo

    Lurky-Loo Been here awhile

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    There's really nothing to criticize today, just about every successful rider crashes as a rookie in MotoGP.

    Criticism for Simoncelli was based on his deliberate barging and on frequent crashing well into his second year in MotoGP. Too soon to tell how similar #58 and #93 will be.
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  12. HoneyBunz

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    It was great having Spies in the commentator box to share his rider's viewpoints, especially with the Bautista-Rossi incident.
    I'm surprised to see MM take himself out all by his lonesome like that. At least he didn't take DP with him. I think, in part he was reacting to pressure from Cal as much as from DP.
    Damn, Jorge was impressive. It's clear, only a perfect race will take the win in MotoGP this year. He let DP know from the start not to mess with him.
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  13. Lurky-Loo

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    Lorenzo also apologized for the pass that both riders thought risky and over-aggressive. Still, since it wasn't decided by tenths of a second, a hard early pass didn't have too much bearing on the results.
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  14. Rajin Cajun

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    Thought it was a great race and Lorenzo put on another clinical! Damn he is a machine! :eek1

    But after that 1st lap pass he did on Danny I don't want to hear him complain about rough riding again! :deal :D
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  15. Kropotkin

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    To fast-track that 'patina' look, you can 'distress' old furniture. It is a process which involves beating the crap out of it until it's just right. Sound familiar? :deal
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  16. Valleyrider

    Valleyrider I Survived The '60s

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    More like "A Bomb"....
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  17. SGrider

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    I was surprised to see Marquez throw away an easy 2nd place finish. Lorenzo was impressive though and seemed to put down the lap times easily today and with ruthless efficiency.

    Well, is the second Yamaha cursed now or what? This was one of Rossi's better chances for a strong race and he didn't even get a lap in. Spies probably can't help but chuckle at Rossi's season getting worse every race.:eek1
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  18. Pecha72

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    Bautista is way behind Rossi on exit:

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    Now Bautista starts to move to quickly to the right, comparing to other riders positions on track this is evident:

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    Then they make contact

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    For me, that was still a dumb and dangerous move, and not because it was Rossi that he collided with, but because he altered his line suddenly, without being aware of the others, and it´s just a few corners from the start, so you can´t expect you´re not close to anybody. Beyond me, if he escapes at least a warning from this.

    Just my 0.02. But Megadeth´s new album “Super Collider” is probably named after Alvaro... :lol3
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  19. bk brkr baker

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    I had a guy run into me in a very similar manner, except we were both on 250 Ducatis running in a vintage race at little Talledega.
    I don't know if that guy and AB are both blind in one eye or what, but even though the 1st contact was on my leg with his front wheel and I had seen him coming in before contact, he blamed me and insisted I had hit him. How ?
    Happens in the minors and the majors.
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  20. Dexter!

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    SRSLY?

    “Regarding the incident between Valentino Rossi (ITA) and Alvaro Bautista (ESP) in the MotoGP race of Mugello on 2 June. The Race Direction has reviewed the incident and held a hearing with both riders where all available evidence was reviewed. Based on this evidence the Race Direction decision is that it was a racing incident and no further action will be taken.”