MotoGP: Motorland (MIA spoilers)

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  1. tinhead

    tinhead Long timer

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    Things shaking out near the end of the season-

    All 3 classes, the Championship leading rider wins the race.
  2. Dagofast

    Dagofast Full giggety ahead.

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    Somewhere in the universe there has to be a cosmic abacus that gets another bead flipped to the side when Marquez almost crashes. I shudder to think what will happen when one too many accumulates.
  3. SGrider

    SGrider BDR 529

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    That was pretty impressive by Marquez, that bike didn't want to co-operate and he forced his will on it to win. I didn't think Pedrosa would be a factor, but a better start and he would have won. Lorenzo only 2 seconds back from victory, it looks like he can be a real factor in next years championship with the progress they've made.

    I thought this was going to be the race where Maverick and Marc square off, but he took too long to get going and find the rhythm of the front runners. Rossi did much better than I expected, he must be wiped out after running full race distance and was moving pretty slowly after getting off the bike.

    I was really surprised to see Aleix beat Dovi, really a great ride to be that close to the front.

    Pedrosa wasn't happy with Rossi though, he ran him right to the edge of the track at 300 KPH. Rossi also did the same to Maverick, seemed a bit risky for a guy with a broken leg.
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  4. Tijuana_Taxi

    Tijuana_Taxi Been here awhile

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    I'm not really sure what Pedrosa was crying about, he chose to pass on the left long before Rossi was there, hell there is 15 ft of track to the right side of him. It's not the guy in front's responsibility to make it easy for them to pass. Every rider goes to the left accelerating out of that corner onto that straight.
  5. GeneralGarden

    GeneralGarden Long timer

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    The riders have to agree on some behavioral rules to keep racing safe. Not pushing someone off the track at 300 kph is one, and Rossi came dangerously close to do that. Pedrosa is not known for unreasonable complaints and in his post-race interview he seemed a little upset by Rossis move. I'd go with the professional opinion of the guy who rides that rocket, that move was dangerous. Maybe Rossi was preoccupied to straighten out the bike, or he had a momentary lapse of judgement. Or he just wanted that third spot on the podium a bit too badly.
  6. azkiwi

    azkiwi message in a bottle

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    just ticked that despite his come from behind 2nd, he was being asked about the rider who arrived 5th. As were they all.
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  7. cogitate

    cogitate What Marcellus Wallace Looks Like

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    Danny did a hell of a ride. Ditto MM, JL, VR, Mika. VR got more attention because VR and broken leg.
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  8. Tijuana_Taxi

    Tijuana_Taxi Been here awhile

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    I'm not sure what broadcast you were watching but in parc ferme nobody asked him about it, he volunteered the complaint as part of the reason he didn't win.
  9. OtterChaos

    OtterChaos Guzzi Sud!

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    I'll be interested to hear why Vinales was off the pace at the beginning of the race and then managed to get a pace comparable to the leaders, it isn't like his tire choice was vastly different than the others. Lorenzo managing his soft rear tire better than Dovi did with his was a surprise to me after seeing how many times this year Jorge went from first to seventh due to burning up the rear.
  10. Bounder

    Bounder ExternallyDisplaced

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    I am thinking it took Pedrosa a long time to get the tyres working, once he got them to where they worked for him he went forward pretty quickly, probably because the others had used more of theirs.
    The weaving in Moto3 was scary,there is going to be a bad accident in that class soon if it continues the way it has this last few rounds.
    Smith is gone, no chance he will be retained as a rider with Kallio showing his pace on the KTM.
  11. Assfault

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    The most dangerous move IMO is the Banzai into the apex, of which MM did again in this race.
    Off the racing line coming into the corner, straight to the apex, with Zero chance of stopping and completing the corner.
    Very risky of taking out another racer, and collecting the gravel trap. He got lucky again, and passed both VR and JLO then proceded straight off the track.
    His father even was wincing at the move, knowing it probably wasn't going to end well for somebody.

    As far as the Rossi/Pedrosa thing, Rossi probably would not of known Pedrosa was even there for one, unless he heard him coming up his outside.
    Second, it is the passing riders responsibility to get by safely, that is on Pedrosa.
    It looked to me like Pedrosa tried to fit 10 pounds into a 5 pound space, and squeezed thru on luck.

    As previously mentioned, MM saved another crash towards the end of the race, at some point the Karma will tip the other direction.
    Great race none the less, lots of battles throughout the race for position. The KTM is starting to come into it's own, it will be interesting to see what happens in that camp come the off season.
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  12. elmontanero

    elmontanero Practicing...

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    Another exciting one. Love it when each lap brings a surprise and the leaders are swapping up the order through the race.
    Fantastic ride by Marquez and Pedrosa, made most of us wish that Pedrosa had moved up quicker to see what he could have done in the front. Dovi and Lorenzo seemed to have their tires get eaten up at then end... even with Lorenzo's podium finish.
    Now annoyed that it'll be three weeks waiting around for the next race!:dirtdog
    What a great year!
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    I hear Mir will be docked 6 grid positions for the next round round due to his weaving on the last lap. I think his riding was dangerous on the last lap...
  14. Gone Troppo

    Gone Troppo Somewhat bemused observer

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    Really? Interesting. He is 80 points ahead anyway...
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    It was only 2 seasons ago that the Ducatis held the reputation for being easy on tire life; something about their power delivery and JLo had a reputation of being Mr. smooth on the cornering arc. Now, he seems to regularly destroy tires on the Ducati. I also did not see the striking straightaway gains by Dovi and JLo on the beastly powerful Ducatis either.

    I was wondering if a more generous fuel allowance of the Ducs was part of the reason they can burn so well on the straights and if the M1 or Honda had the same fuel capacities that they could make the same HP?.

    Lee
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    HarveyMushman Tire Squarerer

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    Maybe that's all it was. I thought his race was strange, taking forever to escape the second group and then making relatively short work of the guys at the sharp end.
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  17. Bounder

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    Pedrosa is pretty light and has had trouble getting tyres working even last race, which was an aberration.
    Marquez just bullies the bike to get what he wants it to do, he finds the limit by pushing over it and falling in practice, but to me there is only so many times you can open that door before it opens and something bad happens.
    He has been lucky too many times, sure he is super fit and flexible but the law of averages must come to play eventually.
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  18. Tijuana_Taxi

    Tijuana_Taxi Been here awhile

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    It's crazy, on the broadcast today they said he's crashed 22 times this year. I can't imagine he can keep that up and not get hurt at some point.
  19. DC2wheels

    DC2wheels Castle Anthrax troll

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    Weaving to break the draft? OMG.......

    Yeah I can see that killing a bus load of orphans.

    What would you have done, sit there and let a couple of bikes pass you?

    He didn't collide into bikes next to him- they were all behind.
  20. RowBust

    RowBust Been here awhile

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    He seems to have mastered the art of injury minimization, check out his latest fall, had hardly hit the deck had his arms folded sliding on his back
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