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Discussion in 'Racing' started by yooperbikemike, Apr 26, 2012.
He was using a different spec rotor.
Got to see the replay today on Speed. The first few laps were the best I've seen in MotoGP in a few years. That was some good stuff. Just hate it that Spies finished so low.
I'll just leave this here.
Just when I was starting to like him you had to go and post that
DON'T pass me over here is what he must have been saying here
You don't hear Casey Stoner saying anything about Dani taking a position from him..
Exactly what I was thinking.
He was probably having flash backs of Assen last year when Simoncelli took him out in the first lap.
No doubt Jorge is a great rider... but this part (if it´s really what he said word-to-word) does sound a bit arrogant to me:
"in MotoGP you have to learn how to take calculated risks … that’s why I signalled Andrea not now. Experience has taught me this.”
(This reminds me of two decades ago, when Rainey once complained to the press, that a rising star named Doohan had put a very tight pass on him some time, and Mick responded: "Well, what am I supposed to do – not pass him, because he´s Wayne Rainey??")
I guess Dovi needs to fall into line and not threaten Jorge.
I have no issue with what he said about Dovi. He has a championship to win and Dovi doesn't yet have the pace to do the same. The first couple laps are tough because the tires aren't there yet. Without a rider error, the risk is too great. If he can impose his will on Dovi, good for him.
Uhh.. yeah. So if you ride the same manufacturer then there's a certain lap that you can start passing on?
Less passing. That's what this series needs.
It's a race.
Is Ben allowed to pass Mr Wonderful???
Are Cal and Dovi allowed to pass Ben in his eyes??
Will he have a talking to Ben when he beats him?
JLo is an ass. He and porcellain-Pedrosa are little princesses that should stfu and race instead of bitching about that someone is trying to do his job out there: get the best position possible. Last season they both disgraced themselves with their attitude towards Simoncelli. A man's character has nothing to do with his ability to ride, but I sure as hell will not be hoping to see either of them winning.
Exactly. The first lap of a race is crazy until the tires warm up. Like I said, I'm sure that Lorenzo remembers Assen last year when Simoncelli took him out on cold tires in the first lap. He lost 15 points to Stoner in that race. Lorenzo doesn't express himself very well some times. I don't think he's saying 'don't pass' I think he's saying don't take crazy risks at the start of the race. You might ask Hayden how he feels about guys trying to win the race on the first lap, or in the first corner for that matter.
It makes sense, it's just not what I like to watch, and certainly not the way I race (not bikes- I'm too old).
Maybe Jorge's philosophy has something to do with why there's an Aussie with the #1 badge?
Seems to me the first 2 or 3 laps of the Big Bikes is when you can predict there might be some exciting racing, every time.
Sometimes there's a few battles in the back later on and maybe some nail-biting at the end if Stoner hasn't got the usual lead.
I love it all, don't get me wrong, but it looks like another year where Moto II is the one that gets my adrenaline running.
This sounds different after reading the story about JLo
Copied from Soup and written by Julian Ryder
"It happened again at the front row press conference this afternoon, although the Italian lady who asked it did first welcome Nicky back to the front row after an absence of over a year before asking why the other side of the garage was in such trouble. Nicky thanked her and then, with his most disarming smile, said "I haven't thought about it too much." A little joking with Jorge Lorenzo followed after the Spaniard was asked if he intended to follow someone in the early laps tomorrow if conditions were tricky. Nicky volunteered. OK, said Jorge, three laps then you let me past. Much merriment from Jorge and Dani Pedrosa. I don't know whether Nick thought he was being patronized or that things were getting a little too pally but there was that flash of steel as he snapped "First three and last three."
End of laughter."
Ryder Notes: Second Fiddle, But Not On The Grid
I'd give him that benefit of the doubt if he wasn't consistently such an ass. You take risks, that's what makes a winner, and exciting racing. As soon as the lights are out, the race is on. That includes the first lap, and it definitely includes the first corner. If he has a problem with that, he should take up sewing.
I like close racing but I prefer it to happen at the end of the race. But it seems that in MotoGP if you don't run with the leaders on the first 2 laps you'll never make up the gap. So I totally understand the motivation to fight for a good position at the start of the race. Who want's to watch Pedrosa or Stoner get a hole shot and check out for the rest of the race? Like you say, the exciting stuff is happening at the start these days.
Masterful fishing expedition, Silver.