Motoport Kevlar first impressions (long, many pics...)

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by Gringo, May 18, 2005.

  1. ikonoklass

    ikonoklass Kountersteering Krew

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    Love my Motoport gear and am in the market for a pair of leather pants. Wayne would automatically get my business by default. But as nearly as I can tell, it is simply impossible to navigate to Wayne's leather products on his existing website. WTF?:rofl :huh
  2. CopaMundial

    CopaMundial Wow, that broke easy

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    I think he was talking about the "regular" Ultra II pants (ie Stretch Kevlar) rather than the Air Mesh version.
    I have the Mesh Jacket and the stretch kevlar pants... great combo for my temperature range here in Pennsylvania. The Quad armor was more difficult to break in with the pants but I figured out a good method. I wore the pants around the house one night and strapped the armor down tight to my leg (with an ace bandage or some string etc) then it formed to the shape/size of my legs pretty quickly.

    Just call and talk to him.
    This is a lot of money to drop on a purchase, so by talking to him you can make sure you're comfortable that you're getting what you wanted. Plus he can help you with the measurements over the phone.
  3. Trixie

    Trixie No, not that Trixie

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    kee-recht- stretch kevlar pants. in looking at teh descriptions, it appears the po-po version and the regualr version both use the same fabric, simliar waist closures, but the police pants have a lig cuff zipper.

    Do the ultra II also have a lower leg zipper, like the stitch pants? I typically wear my pants over my boots, and the ability to loosen the the leg cuffs comes in handy now and then.
  4. wrigmanG/S

    wrigmanG/S Been here awhile

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    The ultra II's have the same cuff adjustment as roadcrafters have. The stretch fabric works well for this and is much more easy to deal with, but just like the Stich, Set it and forget it.
  5. aclark79

    aclark79 Rotor Driver

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    Got my gear in, UltraII top and bottom with a rain liner for both. I have to say the fit and finish is excellent. The jacket certainly fits like a glove so no complaints here. In the futur I would have added cuff zipper snaps, something to go over the zipper when the zip is fully done up on the sleve to prevent it from unzipping.... other than that its excellent.

    I went with one of the emergency info pouches, but mines more of a velcored on and I haven't gotten the embroidery done yet.

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    I'm looking into the sun, (not normally that mad looking!)

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    Its certainly bulky looking, but when on it feels great, can't wait to try it out in the summer.
  6. mbabc

    mbabc Curmudgeon trainee

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    Kinda' wish I didn"t have the "man-boob" pockets on mine.

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  7. CopaMundial

    CopaMundial Wow, that broke easy

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    First there are the on/off zippers.
    The one on left leg comes up the inside of the leg to above the knee. Easy enough to get your left foot in and out with boots on.
    The zipper on the right left comes up the inner leg all the way up to the waist so that the right leg comes completely open.

    As far as adjustment of the lower leg cuff, once your pants are zipped all the way there is a large (say 5 inch tall) section of velcro. You can just pull the cuff tight against your boot and it holds with velcro. Gives me enough adjustment that the pant leg fits equally well over my Sidi Crossfire MX boots or the considerably less bulky Combat Touring Boot Lites. I wear the Crossfires more often than not, just because I feel so much less protected by other boots.
    I haven't had any issues with the pant cuff being loose or catching on my pegs.
  8. levain

    levain STILL Jim Williams

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    Take em off. Takes about 30 sec. with a seam ripper...
  9. ColorItBlue

    ColorItBlue Been here awhile

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    I was at Wayne's shop for a few hours yesterday. The guy KNOWS about protective motorcycle clothing. He didn't just show up and try a make a few dollars. If there's a way for you to go by there it is not to be missed. OR, maybe don't go because you're gonna spend money regardless of what you're wearing now. Safety first...
  10. 1LIFE2LIVE

    1LIFE2LIVE Long timer

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    Had an unplanned (O SHIT) on road mishap and THANKS to the www.motoport.com gear (Kevlar Air Mesh 3/4 jacket & pants) I was wearing came out INJURY FREE :clap!

    IMO When it comes to protective clothing..... Aerostich, Motoport, Joe Rocket or you name it. SPEND as much of your money on protecting YOURSELF & those you LOVE by buying the very BEST gear you can afford.

    You don't want to ever be in a situation where your are saying to yourself "Gee, I WISH I had bought better gear, because maybe I would not be in this hospital bed or going for my third skin graft".

    You get the picture.

    Just wear something = anything is BETTER than NOTHING.
  11. wrigmanG/S

    wrigmanG/S Been here awhile

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    I'm glad to read that the gear did the job it is supposed to. I only have one question, were you using the tri-armor or the Quad-armor??
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    Pics?

  13. KarlJ

    KarlJ Adventurer

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    So I spent about 7 hours yesterday reading all 57 pages of this thread.....as a result I had a headache, my wife is ignoring me (payback for yesterday), and my vision is somewhat blurry.

    I live in Toronto, Canada and after having a few different leather and nylon jackets that never fit properly and were always short of being what I really needed I am really looking forward to ordering the Ultra II or the Riva.

    The website sure needs a lot of work so I am grateful to the members that have posted there opinions, blogs, pics, and rants about this stuff.

    I have e-mailed Wayne at Cycleport with a few questions that I will also post here if some of you could answer for me.

    I plan on ordering the Aero-Tex WBW liner (non-insulated) with the jacket but I am confused about the two Kevlars; Air-Mesh & Stretch Kevlar

    1) I will be riding from 40F to 90F......here in Toronto the killer is the humidity and can raise temps about 15F to 105F.......and when I travel North even in July the temps will fall to the low 40's............so Mesh or Stretch(with the WBW liner)???

    2) How much stiffer is the Mesh......I know some have described it as a "cheese grater"??? Does this mean that the Stretch Kevlar is soft?

    3) I was considering flying out with my wife to San Diego to get measured up at Cycleport but with the cheapest flight being $1300 for the both of us I am considering recording myself and my wife measuring ourselves since I've read a few pages of "measurement issues"..........is this too over-the-top?

    Thank you in advance for replies to my Q's

    Karl
  14. Lochlyn_Deckard

    Lochlyn_Deckard Dex Moto(naut)

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    How many hours of time was that? :huh

    Just a few thoughts. I have the stretch kevlar (street jeans) and find it very soft. I had a mesh jacket on briefly and really don't care for the material; stiff and rough. I'd rather sweat more. Just not a fan.

    Flying out there to get the measurements correctly is way over the top! Between having someone measure you and talking to Wayne, it should be fine.
  15. makinwaves

    makinwaves Long timer

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    1) Tough question. I have the stretch pants (but Halvarssons Safety Jacket for the top) and even with the liner in the pants I find them a little cold around 45F and below. So the mesh will fair worse in the colder temps. On the flip side when it hits 80F and above (yes occassionaly here..:D ), I find the stretch a little hot. Partly due to the amount of armour blocking any ventilation they may have. So with humidity they'll be even warmer.

    2) Don't know. But stretch is soft. Almost like a pair of good jeans.

    3) Probably. You should be fine with measuring if you're careful and follow the instructions exactly. Measure a few times to be sure and give them a call if you're unsure. They're pretty helpful (it's in their interest) in getting your measurements right. I'd save your money on the flight and use it to upgrade to the quad armour. The tri armour offers little protection in my humble opinion (there's a lot of it yes, but it doesn't absorb very much impact compared to CE compliant armour. The quad armour however does).

    Hope that helps!
  16. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    ...Wearing Wayne's Air Mesh Kevlar:

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    Just east of Puerto Vallarta near a town called Mascota.

    Had Wayne's Air Mesh jacket and pants.

    No photos of the gear, since after being washed you can't tell I slid 50 feet down the mountain road (!)

    Left boot: torn up
    Left glove: destroyed
    Helmet: visor trashed

    I can tell you that if I was wearing other gear (IMHO) I would have been hamburger.

    Motorcycle (R1200GS Adventure): 3K worth of damage

    New windscreen, running light, turn signal, all left side crash bars replaced, nose piece, handguard, mirror, etc.

    Read all About it Here

    ....scroll down near the bottom of the page

    I'd never wear any other gear than Wayne's...:gerg

    Bob :jose
  17. KarlJ

    KarlJ Adventurer

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    Thanx for the reply, makinwaves,

    So the stretch without the WBW liner would still be warm at 80F because of the armor? So is it more of the stretch Kevlar not being as porous as the Mesh because both jackets will still have the armor in the same places, no?

    On the Motoport website under the Ultra II Kevlar Jacket (stretch) it says in red that if "you ride in 90F at slow speeds this jacket is for you"....is this exaggerated?

    So now am I thinking of getting the Air-Mesh with both liners, the WBW and the thermo......but then the jacket will be made bigger to accommodate the two liners and in the summer I will be floating in the jacket, no???

    Geez......I'm trying to buy the "do-it-all" jacket, hopefully Wayne replies to my e-mail.



  18. Dolly Sod

    Dolly Sod Red Clay Halo

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    Here's my opinion on this. I have the airmesh jacket and pant with rain liners. I think it's pretty damn close to a "do it all" set up. The place where it fails for me is winter riding. Once the temps hit the 30's I prefer to wear my Aerostitch Darien Jacket and Pants. For what ever reason, they are warmer, and with all the layers I've got on, it's one less layer (the Motoport Rain liners) that I have to zip up/velcro up and to get going.

    When the all day temps are 40-50 and above I don't even think about wearing the stitch any more.


    EDIT: Every time I read Waynes site, when it comes to temp range. He says the airmesh gear with liners will take you from -20 degrees f to 85 degrees f. I have no idea where he got that -20 number, or why he's stuck to it as he's update the garment info. It's insane. I wouldn't ride in +20 degree with just his liners, let alone -20.
  19. KarlJ

    KarlJ Adventurer

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    Thanx gramps,

    I fired you off a PM with some additional Qs

    I think the -20F is with the additional thermo liner......It's not even safe to ride at these temps, I'd be more worried about hitting ice than freezing.

    Which jacket to do you have Ultra II, Ultra, Riva?


  20. KarlJ

    KarlJ Adventurer

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    Thanx gramps,

    I fired you off a PM with some additional Qs

    I think the -20F is with the additional thermo liner......It's not even safe to ride at these temps, I'd be more worried about hitting ice than freezing.

    Which jacket to do you have Ultra II, Ultra, Riva?