Motoport Kevlar first impressions (long, many pics...)

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by Gringo, May 18, 2005.

  1. harderkev

    harderkev Slab Sucks!

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    Thanks, Charles. I considered going w/o the top pockets. I'd hate to find later that I wished I had them, plus it's a little more difficult to photoshop them out. Could you post a pic of your jacket ....? :evil :wink:
  2. dlew

    dlew Daypass Adventurer

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    is there anyone out there who lives in a climate with a range so wide that you bought both the mesh and the kevlar stretch blend?
  3. datchew

    datchew Don't buy from Brad

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    I wouldn't sweat it.
    I'm not saying your requests are crazy or anything, but they are rather extensive. I can understand him not wanting to make major changes to his design. The neck though... hmm, personally I'd REALLY want a higher neck.

    Personally, I'm willing to trust his judgement on such things.
    he's sold alot of this stuff for a long time and has a solid reputation on it.


    As for Charles' mesh jacket without the top pockets... he let me ride over and see it before I placed my order. It looks good. Very clean. No offense to Wayne's stuff, but it looks more like a motorcycle riding suit and less like a photographer's vest. The red trim looks slick too. Just don't get carried away or you'll look like spiderman. :wink:
  4. harderkev

    harderkev Slab Sucks!

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    I talked with Wayne today about my order. It seems the biggest issue was with my request for the Air Tex liner inserts for the jacket pockets. Although this sounds (to me) simple enough to do, Wayne said this would be very expensive and time-consuming because it deviates from the usual production process. I might try and just get the material and make those myself later if I still want them.

    Wayne told me it is not uncomfortable to have things in the liner pockets or in the pockets of clothing under the gear. Wayne said he primarily uses his pants pockets under the gear because it is very easy to get into them through the overpants.

    Wayne said a production run for standard colors will be completed in about 3 weeks. Unfortunately my color scheme is not included in this run. Wayne also said any color other than black on the lower legs of the pants gets dirty very quickly. Wayne suggested I stay with all black pants and only get colors on the cargo pockets, if I want.

    Wayne told me the Air Tex liner has a standard 3" tall collar and the Ultra II Air Mesh jacket comes with a standard 1.5" collar. Velcro instead of snaps is no problem.
  5. rodentface

    rodentface Maximus - Dorkus Maximus

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    For those inquiring about stretch kevlar vs. mesh kevlar...

    I own the Air Mesh Kevlar jacket and I ride year-round in Chicago. I haven't yet gone through the summer heat here in my mesh kevlar gear, but I have been out on harsh winter days. Here's a rough breakdown of my temperature tolerances in the mesh kevlar. I typically ride 45-60 minutes in this setup on an BMW 1150GS with standard windshield.

    Jacket:
    55 degrees on up - just the outer mesh kevlar shell
    45 to 55 degrees - add the uninsulated liner
    30ish to 45 degrees - add the insulated liner
    25ish and below - I add my Gerbing electric jacket liner

    Pants:
    45 and up - just the outer mesh kevlar shell
    below 45 - add the uninsulated liner
    below 15ish - I add long underwear

    I'm something of a cold wimp, but I have never *ever* been cold on my bike in this gear. (I've been down to about 3 degrees fahrenheit, not including wind chill.) The electrics help when it's bitterly cold outside, of course. I wore an Aerostich Darien for two years and never got cold either. But I also couldn't bring myself to wear the Darien above 75 degrees which, in Chicago, is a huge portion of the year.

    And my customer service with Wayne has been the single best customer service I've received from any company of any kind.

    If any Chicagoans have questions or comments, feel free to contact me privately.

    Rodent Face
  6. Racegun

    Racegun Single Track Mind!

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    It is simple for all, but sometimes not easy..what do I mean?
    THE SIMPLE PART::deal
    Wayne is in my humble opinion, one of the very best to deal with. He is honest and does an awesome job. THERE IS NOTHING available that performs like his gear....PERIOD! He is even right about all the little things....like black pants. Think about that. Will anyone realy see you because your pants are bright? If that is the only reason...you are in deep SHEEUUT

    Oh Not Easy::cry

    Sometimes the wait.... but the biggest part is to get folks to trust and beleive. Maybe it is because we live in a world of lies and unicorn oil "sales people" ( politicly correct..allthough I hate that) . Seems like so many people are out to prey on the gulible and uninitiated!
  7. Jabba

    Jabba "HOLD THE LIGHT!!!"

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    ...how about ZERO advertising, no presence at rallies, no availability in retail outlets, and a website that leaves MUCH to be desired?!~ From my perspective as a salesman, this product is doing damned near everything to maintain a small market presence- despite the outstanding qualities of the product itself. I have a feeling that Wayne's business is as large as he wants it to be or he'd be pursuing SOME form of promotion to grow it.
  8. Racegun

    Racegun Single Track Mind!

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    NOW JABBA,
    have you ever thought that he may be using reverse pschology (sp)..... you know.... wisper to get someones attention. Yep I wish he would have done some advertising. I could have saved the bother of the 5yr old aero stitch ( like new) I will never ride w/ again.

    AS a former business owner, specially in Louisiana, it is almost impossible to grow from a few employees to over 10~15.....w/o MEGGA capitol! Personally, I am going to order a second "port"... so that in the event he goes out of business, I can still ride in the bestesteseses gear in the Milky-Way!
  9. BikePilot

    BikePilot Long timer

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    Well, I don't have a mesh kevlar suite, but I wish I did as my double layer strech kevlar GPII is pretty hot in weather much over 80°F. I'm comfortable in it (without any liners, layers etc) from ~50-80°F. Even below 50 is do-able but a bit chilly without some form of wind protection (if you ride a bike with some wind protection adjust these numbers down).
  10. dlew

    dlew Daypass Adventurer

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    thanks for the reply, bikepilot. i'm going into my first warm season with my kevlar blend and i'm worried i'm going to burn up.

    btw, to all of you who have ordered a suit: you're going to be pleased, i think. day to day, i've been altnernating between a two piece roadcrafter, a bmw santiago jacket with first gear ht overpants, and my motoport and i always miss the motoport but not the others so much.
  11. datchew

    datchew Don't buy from Brad

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    On a side note:

    I cleaned up and found the cloth samples that Wayne sent me of the kevlar mesh and the kevlar stretch cloth.

    If anyone is interested, EMAIL me your address and I'll stick em in an envelope headed your way.

    :-)
  12. harderkev

    harderkev Slab Sucks!

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    Check your inbox...
  13. datchew

    datchew Don't buy from Brad

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    Lucky I checked my pm's. I usually forget.

    Harderkev pm'd me first.
    So i'll send them to him Monday.

    Another guy pm'd me, so maybe you can send them to him when you're done.
    I'll notify him to PM you. I'm sure he doesn't want his address posted for all to see. :eek1
  14. harderkev

    harderkev Slab Sucks!

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    No problem. As far as I'm concerned we can keep these same samples moving to new or prospective buyers indefinitely. :thumb
  15. levain

    levain STILL Jim Williams

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    I just got samples for the kevlar stretch I'll send out. Pm me address..
  16. Roostre

    Roostre Discombobulated

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    Well my Ultra II kevlar jacket arrived last week...several weeks ahead of Wayne's estimate. I must say that I am impressed with the quality and workmanship of this jacket. The material is definitely unlike anything else I have seen. I opted for the yellow/black with the scotchlite extended down the sleeves. It's better looking in person than in the pictures.

    I must also tell you how Wayne went out of his way to make sure my jacket would fit (boy am I gald he did). I called in my measurements and placed my order; a few days later Wayne calls me and says "Are you sure these are right?" I say "Yeah - I am a big guy..thats part of why I am having you make me a jacket, I can't find any locally that fit right." Wayne says "Will you recheck the sleeve length with some of the other jackets you have, just to be sure??" -- Well, Wayne was right! Somehow my daughter and I had screwed up the measurements. The jacket fits exactly like the jacket I gave him the sleeve measurements from. Nice. It's great to see someone take that interest in their customers orders, use their expertise and get the thing right the first time. :clap

    I have been riding with it ever day since....including an off-road only trip to the desert. I am quite happy with the jacket. At speeds above 45 it feels like you are wearing nothing but a t-shirt. (It was about 80 degrees) I have not tried the rain liner or the gore-tex yet, but tommorow is supposed to be wet here.

    The ultimate test of the jacket would be a crash... I am hoping that I won't soon be doing that.
  17. Racegun

    Racegun Single Track Mind!

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    YOU mean you hope you will NEVER be doing that!

    as far as harassing ....guess it depends ...might be Chuck Norris's mom, or Bruce Lee's realative.....then what...OOOOOPS!:lol3
  18. clang

    clang Not lost, Exploring!

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    I've got both in the jacket. Just the stretch in the pants. The mesh has a stiffer feel to it. I can actually wear the stretch comfortably in most weather. I only wear the mesh in the middle of the summer, or on shorter rides around town where I know I won't get up the speed for the air flow through the stretch blend.

    I have actually worn the mesh in about 30 deg weather with the liner and a gerbings and been toasty warm.
  19. minging

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    +1 - Can somebody who has the jacket without the upper pockets please post a pic? Pretty please?
  20. Roostre

    Roostre Discombobulated

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    Well, I can't help with the no pockets pics, but I did put a review over here:
    http://klr650.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11526

    Lots of pics.