Motoport v Aerostich

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by Panhandler, Dec 1, 2010.

  1. Panhandler

    Panhandler Wanderer

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    I have decided to upgrade from my cheap mesh jacket and get either Motoport or Aerostich gear. I have read several threads and am convinced that they both provide excellent protection in the event of a crash. I am more concerned with comfort and practicality. I live in Texas, so anything I wear must be cool. I also am hard to fit (6'5") and am limited to manufacturers that offer tall sizes. For these reasons I am leaning toward the Motoport mesh jacket and pants that are custom made.
    However, I also need something that will keep me warm. Today, the temperature ranged from 20 to 60 degrees. I would like a jacket that can handle all extremes and keep me dry in the occasional rain. The Aerostich looks warmer and better suited for extreme weather.
    I look forward to the debate!
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  2. Benjava

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    That debate is at google :deal
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  3. radvas

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    The Aerostich is really just an uninsulated shell. If you want to stay warm in it, you need to layer underneath. Without layers, you'll get cold very quickly. If you want to stay cool in it, you need to open up the vents (that don't work all that well) and keep moving. I wore mine year round here in the SF bay area with heated gear in the winter and sweat in the summer. It leaked at the legs in 30-60 minute rides in moderate to heavy rain, but overall was more water-resistant that it gets credit for. I sold mine recently because I never liked the comfort, and have been on the quest for something better.

    I did look at the motoport stretch kevlar. It seems like a comfortable fabric that has a little bit of give & stretch, which the aerostich does not. No practical experience with it though. I also tried on a BMW comfortshell suit, which didn't fit me perfectly, but was surprisingly comfortable nonetheless, and the armor was impressive.

    The main benefit of the aerostich is that it's super easy to get on & off; mega-convenient. What exactly is your use? Commuting? Touring? ...? If you want a variety of opinions, there's no shortage of threads on the stich and the motoport.
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  4. ph0rk

    ph0rk Doesn't Care

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    I wouldn't buy anything I couldn't try on, sit on the bike, and return if I didn't like the fit/feel. Hell, I wouldn't something I can't return as it is and I'm not even that terribly hard to fit.
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  5. no2opec

    no2opec Been here awhile

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    I own them both and the motoport air mesh Kevlar is much better in hot weather than the stich and provides more protection as well. Stich is a great suit but it is just unbearable in Oklahoma summers which are like Texas as you know. The port air mesh kevlar breaths so well and in Colorado it was easy to insulate for cold mornings. As far as sizing no problem with either company because they both are great companies and will get your order right( maybe not the first time) but you will just have to pay for it. My Motoport air Kevlar jeans are awesome. Perfect fit was obtained from a pair of jeans I sent in and the jacket was spot on as well. They just look like black jeans,very comfy and IMO provide the best protection for the investment. Good luck.
    Hope this helps.
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  6. Panhandler

    Panhandler Wanderer

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    Thanks for the constructive comments. In all of my Google searches, I have not found any reason to purchase the Aerostich over Motoport, so I guess the debate is over.
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  7. Okie Preacher

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    I can't speak to the Aerostich, but I am a big fan of my Air Mesh Marathon Jacket and Pants. Fantastic protection and very flexible as far as temperature and conditions.

    It is in the mid-20's in OKC this morning. The ten-minute ride to the office will be in a windproof pullover over "business casual." It wouldn't be warm enough for a hundred miles, but add a layer or two and it is very comfortable. Summertime Oklahoma heat and humidity are tackled with something like a long sleeve T-shirt and jeans. Very flexible kit.

    I am 6'4" and 245#. Take your time with the measurements. Listen CAREFULLY to Wayne Boyer at Motoport when you are putting together your order. Read every Motoport thread you can find on the board. You won't be disappointed.
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  8. ph0rk

    ph0rk Doesn't Care

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    :huh

    I thought that particular difference was well documented.
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  9. Xeraux

    Xeraux Archvillain

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    Aerostich v. Motoport?

    :huh


    I think I just heard some hi-viz heads explode. :patch
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  10. mr7q

    mr7q Stupid and Contagious

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    While I can't speak for the 'Stitch, my Motoport gear (Ultra II Kevlar Jacket/Pants) has served me well over the last five years. I've been in temperature ranges from 20 - 110 degrees (won't say I'm "comfortable" at either extreme, but that's independent of being on a motorcycle or not), and it held up just fine after skating along the ground after a 30 mph lowside.

    I'm 6'7", 240 lbs and after dealing with Wayne for a custom fit, the suit fits much better than any other piece of motorcycle gear I've ever worn. I can highly recommend it. The only issue was the wait (around 6 weeks when I ordered), which I'm assuming would be typical of any custom shop, so order early!
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  11. TallRob

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    being 6'9" 200. Wayne did a great job sizing be up for airmesh marathon jacket and mesh pants. I got mine in 4 weeks
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  12. deeve

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    I had an older Aerostitch RoadCrafter that was very comfortable, but hot in warmer weather. I ordered a new one and find it extremely uncomfortable. Something changed between now and 10 years ago. I will be looking at Motoport.
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  13. Sasquatch

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    Another vote for Motoport. At 6' 380#, the custom fitted Motoport stretch kevlar jacket and pants feels like wearing a heavy sweatsuit. The material is very soft and supple to the touch and the fit is perfect. Because the material stretches and conforms it just feels right. It is great in hot weather, tolerable in cool weather with the rain linings installed. Add a heated liner and it stretches it even farther.
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  14. bomber60015

    bomber60015 Anatomically Correct

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    Pluses for the stich include convenience (putting on/taking off) and the fact that it is highly water resistant all on it's own (two-piece version) . . .

    Given where you live, though, it's likely Motoport is the right choice for you.

    It may also be the right choice for me, but after invensting a hour's worth of time on what has to be one of the planet's worst commercial websites, I still didn't know which product I wanted to check into further.

    Everyone I know that has Motoport Gear loves it. 80% of stich riders I know love theirs.

    Motoport seems to win.
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  15. RunningWild

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    I guess I kind of am straddling the line with my daily kit. Darien Pants and a stretch kevlar Marathon jacket from Motoport.

    Dariens are great, don't have to worry if it rains a little on the way to work, no liners to mess with and great quality.

    Marathon jacket from Motoport is excellent quality as well. I use the waterproof liner during the winter, along with a couple of light longsleeve layers to keep the cold out. Works really well for me. Custom fit and feels like a big sweatshirt. The armor in the front of the chest is great. Whenever I put on an old jacket without the armor up front I feel very vulnerable.

    The jacket breathes better than cordura during the summer, and the pants and I get along just fine.

    So there's another option - mix and match gear for what suits you.
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  16. marchyman

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    'stich stuff is quite stiff when new. The "something" just might be 10 years of use. :dunno Throw the new one in the wash and tumble it in the dryer on no heat for a while and see if it gets more comfortable.

    To get back on topic... I really dislike the feel of the Motoport fabric, enough so that I'd never consider purchasing the product. I just retired a falling apart pair of R2P pants, replacing them with roadcrafter lowers with the bib attachment. When the R2P jacket goes I'm thinking maybe a Darien light jacket. Or not.
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  17. levain

    levain STILL Jim Williams

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    I'm always surprised that the two are compared as much as they are. To me, the only two similarities are that they are American made, and both are considered oversuits. The similarities pretty much end there.

    One has a bonded waterproof/windproof outer. One relies on liners. One is Cordura. One is kevlar mesh or "stretch" kevlar (or cordura, but who buys that?).

    To me, those are the two big questions. Either suit will protect you in a tumble. One maybe better than the other, but they're both proven. Do you want 95% waterproofing 100% of the time, or do you want to layer for the conditions?

    For commuting the Roadcrafter is the one suit to beat worldwide for 2 decades now! The motoport suit isn't as good for commuting, but probably better otherwise. Then again, if you live somewhere it rains alot the liner system would tend to suck, but that's true of lots of manufacturers now! Motoport also makes a mesh and stretch one piece suit, but you still need the liner.

    Stretch fabric can be made very water resistant and it's incredibly versatile in wide temp. ranges. I don't even use the liner unless I'm riding all day in low 40's, and never in the rain. It's a real pain in the ass in daily use. Jacket liner not so much. With the Aerostich (roadcrafter or darien, you don't say?? They're a very different animal!) you have no liner to deal with, so it's much nicer in cold weather. Hot weather, not so much!

    Bottom line either suit will protect you. Folks whine about how stiff a new Aerostich suit is. They whine just as much about how stiff/bulky/clunky mesh motoport is! Stretch feels like sweatpants, but still very bulky! Motoport uses liners (like so many other makes these days). Aerostich does not! Search the internet and you'll find thousands that crash tested either suit and replaced it with the same!

    Both manufacturers will bend over backwards to get a good fit. Arguably, Motoport might do more, but there's plenty of folks that have had problems with them. Personally, I think Wayne makes his life more difficult by offering custom. I feel for the guy. He's relying on his customers to make accurate measurements, and I'd bet that's the problem most of the time with Motoport fit complaints. I own stretch pants and jacket that couldn't fit better. My roadcrafter doesn't fit as well, but it's the "correct" size!
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  18. honda_silver

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    I have Motorport Air Mesh Kevlar jacket and pants with liner pants, jacket with an additional internal insulation zip in layer for jacket.

    I commute and ride year round.

    During the colder days, I will substitute the internal zip layer for my North Face 300 Polartec jacket.

    During the summer commute, I still wear my normal work clothes under the Motoport.

    During the long hot (and humid) summer long rides, I wear LDComfort pants and shirt under the Motoport. If I add any water to LDComfort it will cool/air condition
    - shirt for ~90 minutes
    - pant ~120 minutes
    I know they say mesh is not optimal for LDComfort cooling, but it still works just not as long.

    So with the Motoport and with the proper layering/gear ... I can truly ride comfortably year round !!!
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  19. Panhandler

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    You have convinced me that Motoport is the best product on the market. I called to get fabric swatches and ended up talking to Wayne for almost an hour. A great product with unparalleled customer service.
    To make a long story short, I decided to go ahead and put down a deposit. The cost of material is going up and the prices will soon rise, so I wanted to lock in the current price.
    Now comes the hard part. There are so many options that it is almost impossible to decide. I am mostly convinced that mesh is better than stretch kevlar for Texas summers. I will probably go ahead and spring for the liner to make it a year round suit. I like the look of the waist length jackets better. I have read the pros and cons of waist length vs 3/4 length and think i will take the risk of keeping my weight under control. If any of you have been disappointed with the shorter jacket, I would like to know about it.
    As for the pants, I have no idea whether to go with the jeans cut or police cut. I also have concerns about whether the mesh will damage the paint on my bike (something I have read about in other threads).
    I am looking forward to my first custom made apparel. Thanks for any help you can send my way.
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  20. Phil Y

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    I know there are many Motoport fans. I'm one of them and wouldn't trade my mesh shirt/pants for anything else here in hot, humid Hawii. That said, getting to this point was a chore.

    The mesh pants tended to bunch up behind my knees (I ride a n R1100S) so I had the entire back panels replaced with stretch kevlar. Much better but expen$ive! :eek1 My "fault." No problem.

    Kevlar shirt, however, arrived VERY tight around elbows and shoulders, sleeves about 1.5 inches too short, DESPITE my having sent a sample shirt for sizing. After a bunch of emails back and forth, I quit arguing with Wayne that my original measurements were incorrect: they were not and I provded photo proof that the sample shirt sleeves were longer than the kevlar shirt sleeves. In any case, Wayne finally, without admitting that they screwed up originally, fixed the shirt by adding gussets to the shoulders. I bit my tongue and decided the reason I started this adventure was to get a shirt that fit correctly.

    Just sharing to let you know that Wayne produces a first-class product even if his customer service sometimes leaves something to be desired and getting a proper fit long-distance may take some time, patience and $$.
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