Motorcycle Fatalities are Down

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  1. Lacedaemon

    Lacedaemon Been here awhile

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    Apparently they dropped 16% last year, after steadily rising for 12. No one can figure out why, but everything is mentioned from people riding less, which might not be that good, to drivers having become more aware of motorcycles, which would be awesome.

    What are people's thoughts?

    The Washington Post article discussing it in detail is linked here:
    http://mobile.washingtonpost.com/rs.../22/AR2010042200005_mobile.xml+&cid=585&spf=1
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  2. pnoman

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    Interesting article, especially the last part:

    The NHTSA has reported that 41 percent of motorcyclists and 51 percent of their passengers who died in 2008 were not wearing helmets. Thirty percent of fatalities involved riders whose blood alcohol level was above the .08 legal limit, NHTSA said, and 35 percent of them were speeding.

    Hmmmm......I wonder how many fell into all 3 categories? :eek1 Apparently ATGATT, and riding sober and sensibly, will greatly reduce your chances of becoming a statistic. My .02

    Ride safe.
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  3. n2omike

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    Personally, I'd like to see a different guardrail design. The present ones held in place by I-Beams give me the willies! Run into those at speed, and it's a slice & dice. :eek1

    I think people are drinking less these days. They still crash their cars just as much or more, as too many are trying to text and drive.... but that isn't done as much on a motorcycle. :D
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  4. Lacedaemon

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    It does seem like bad judgment on the part of the rider is the No. 1 factor in most of the deaths. And even if some lunatic in a car was the immediate cause, something like being drunk or not wearing a helmet contributes.

    I was interested (as a newly licensed, un-motorcyled person myself) that one of the possible causes was the economy keeping people from starting to ride, even if existing riders didn't ride less. It's sobering to think that lack of experience could make enough of a difference to bring down national statistics that much.
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  5. JaxObsessed

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    GREAT NEWS!!
    I'm thinking that there are WAY less newbs on the road because the economy is limiting first time MC buyers.
    Most fatal accidents seem to involve folks with little to no experience. ..... and probably all of them are drinking, speeding and feeling an inflated sense of their ability. This shit ain't easy.
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  6. stoked steve

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    We've had a lot of motorcycle fatalities here last year and several already this year. Most of them are single vehicle accidents, involve speed and/or alcohol.

    http://hamptonroads.com/2010/04/two-people-killed-separate-motorcycle-crashes-tuesday?cid=rltd&cid=srch

    As a rider, I'd love to blame cagers for the accidients, but the truth is 75%+ of the accidents are due to the rider himslef (or herself) making poor decisions, either about speed, road conditions, level of intoxication, gear, etc....

    It's sad, but it gives me comfort when I read about these accidents that I always wear ATGATT, never drink when riding (another story when not riding!) and always stay cautious and alert about what is going on around me.

    The real danger is oursleves and our abilities, not the reckless cager (most of the time!)

    Amen brother!
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    If you can survive the learning curve and ingrain some good habits then, it seems to me at least, that it gets a lot easier and your likelihood of being a statistic goes way down. I think the 42% drop in new sales was a big factor.

    I'm a bit surprised that 59% of fatalities are wearing helmets. Of course if you go down at speed, have a sudden impact or are wearing a beanie it might not help that much.

    That article dealt in absolute deaths. I think deaths per mile is a more relevant stat. However, any way you slice it the decline in fatalities is a good thing.
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  8. Lacedaemon

    Lacedaemon Been here awhile

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    JaxObsessed Endeavor to persevere.

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    Thanks for the update.

    "Licenses: In 2010, 22% of riders involved in fatal accidents didn't have valid motorcycle licenses."

    So when your friend says Hey "can I ride that thing", the answer is FUCK NO. They can thank you later for helping them stay off the Darwin award winners list.

    3 years and 50K miles under my ass since I said it, still true...... This shit ain't easy.
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  10. Lacedaemon

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  11. stoked steve

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    Wow, I can't believe I posted on this thread five years ago!

    Damn, I'm getting old, but still safe with no accidents.

    Stay safe, ATGATT!
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  12. JaxObsessed

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    +1

    edit;
    this shit ain't easy. :D
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    Fixt it fo ya.
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  14. mica

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    Same findings as the Hurt report. Learn to ride, wear gear and don't ride drunk.

    This guy wasn't listening.
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  15. Lacedaemon

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    OW!

    And yes, it seems like things don't really change except that since the Hurt report came out, safety gear has gotten better, and roads have gotten more crowded.

    I realize this is a bit of a zombie thread, but I think it's interesting to follow how these reports move up and down. What's interesting to me is that in the beginning, we all assumed that the financial crisis was keeping new riders off of the streets and that's why fatalities were down. That seemed to be true as things got a bit better and they went up. But now they are down again without a corresponding drop in the economy, which leaves me curious.

    Perhaps the frigid winters on the east coast are shortening the riding season? Perhaps the extraordinary expansion in scooter riders post-crisis is beginning to make people more aware of motorcyclists since there are so many more running around the cities (for these purposes, I will treat motorcycles and scooters as the same thing)? Either way, fewer dead riders is a good thing, even if the deaths are concentrated in the squid and pirate populations.
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