Motorcycle Winch?

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by Britome, Apr 13, 2013.

  1. Dubl-A

    Dubl-A SuckerDucker

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    I'm sorry but this video made me chuckle. Rider leaves for a DS adventure with an expensive bike, rides the incline like a noob looks to spend more time fiddling with hardware, straps and electronics cables than actually riding. At the end of the video its night time. He looked more of a winch enthusiast than a rider :lol3
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  2. Tacoosh

    Tacoosh better every day

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    Their video says their block and tackle weight limit is 450 lbs.....might not be enough for a loaded bike.
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  3. Qwik

    Qwik Adrenaline Addict

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    And he rides like shite. I wouldn't ride with him.
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  4. gearheadE30

    gearheadE30 Long timer

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    A few thoughts. I've been in various places with my 950 where a winch might be handy, since I often ride alone in kind of nasty places as well. First of all, a winch is heavy, and takes up a lot of space. I was able to reduce the amount of crap I was carrying by enough that it isn't all that bad to pick up, and if it's really bad, I can always unload and then pick it up. I've also crashed down a hill, and while it took 3 hours to get out, a few ratchet straps was all it really took. the best thing I did was remove my crash bars, because they would dig into the ground and make it impossible to slide the bike. 990 tank protectors have been more than enough, and now I can push it around on its side easily.

    I personally really like the block and tackle idea. I carried a few pulleys and some climbing rope with me, and I've never had to use it, but it's nice peace of mind. I also generally carry a military surplus e-tool for getting out of sand or mud pits. A winch just seems a little excessive to me, because of the weight and space claim. The lighter the bike, the more fun it is to ride and the less likely I am to crash, haha.

    that said, I just remembered that you're on a GS. That's a lot heavier, and much more of a pain ot pick up....so ymmv. You might actually want a winch there.
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  5. brents347

    brents347 Trusting my Cape...

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    Everyone here can be so keyboard-critical. It is a promotional video. He is on a F800 with very street tires. Did he pick a horrible line on the hill, yes. Was he SUPPOSED to get stuck for the video, yes!

    II would wager he rides better than 80% or more of the guys on this board.

    Not me, of course! :norton
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  6. Dustodust

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    In my yunger days when we had a lot more off road area I had a 1966 landcruiser with a PTO winch.
    I did a lot of crazy/stupid off roading.
    The cable rarely if ever came out except to rescue some other vehicle from a mud pit.
    Almost ALWAYS there is nothing to hook on to within reach and I found that the most useful tool was a shovel
    a hi-lift jack is also more useful than a winch
    also more useful than a winch for pulling out other vehicles was an elastic "Snatchum" strap that will give a mighty jerk with just a little run because usually the winch just pulls the other vehicle into the mudhole
    and no matter how many times you say or scream " DO NOT DRIVE AFTER I PULL YOU OUT UNTIL WE GET THE CABLE UNHOOKED BECAUSE IT WILL GET WRAPPED AROUND AND KINK THE CRAP OUT OF MY WINCH CABLE" the damn starnger you pulled out will do it anyway and say oops soory

    this is a few reasons why I will never have another winch. 99% of the time I would rather have a shovel

    or in the case of adventure riding, basic riding skills mixed with wisdom
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  7. gearheadE30

    gearheadE30 Long timer

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    But you can't buy wisdom. You can buy a winch. :lol3
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  8. rburkat

    rburkat Been here awhile

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    Couple of pulleys and a bit of rope and you can vertically lift a 990....with your teeth if need be. :D

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  9. oldfuddy

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    Calling Eagle Scout or Military background right there.
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  10. 1Bonehead

    1Bonehead Fearless of Falling

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    I have mine mounted on my rear rack and switch on my bars. I used a trolling motor quick disconnect for the electric
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  11. gearheadE30

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    Climbing pulleys? Those are a hell of a lot nicer than the hardware store versions I carry around, and they look a lot lighter too. I bet I've got 4 lbs in my pulleys alone, using the same setup you do, and wouldn't mind it being lighter haha.
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  13. LTKernel

    LTKernel jack of all trades...

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    true enough- I started looking at stats just after I posted. Nothing like twice the weight :lol3
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  15. strykerpro

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    I'm liking the look of those nylon pulleys. Who makes em and where can I get em?????


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  16. Mleaky

    Mleaky Been here awhile

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    Ronstan Blocks and Metolius carabiners
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  17. rattis

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    By buying a KLR?

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  18. FakeName

    FakeName Wile E Coyote SuperGenius

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    Great system- but a "bit of rope" is possibly understating it. With that many turns you'll need several bits of rope.

    Still the best system I've seen.
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  19. gefr

    gefr Life is a trip

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    Maybe not too neat...
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  20. HeatXfer

    HeatXfer Bad knees

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    Two different sets of gear shown: In the pic with the Baja in the air he's got a 5:1 advantage using two fiddle blocks with beckets and a single block to form a 3-piece gyn tackle with 5 lines supporting the load, usually done with just two blocks: a double and a triple, probably bulkier and certainly more expensive than the set up shown.

    The pieces on the scale are a single-block becket, a single block and a double block. With those you'll get a 4:1 advantage.

    5:1 = 600lb load requires 120lb pull - Length of rope is 5x lifting/pulling distance
    4:1 = 600lb load requires 150lb pull - Length of rope is 4x lifting/pulling distance

    Depending on the quality and length of rope you get and misc carabiners total cost is probably less than $250.
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