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Discussion in 'Old's Cool' started by nachtflug, Jun 5, 2011.
up next? big brother.
some cliff notes on Cleveland gleaned from Suchers book Inside American Motorcycling.
Built Cleveland and Chandlers auto's.
The 2 stroke was 13 cubic inch nobody talked cc's back then.
The 2 stroke was phased out in 1925.
There was a lot of back room business back then and Indian and Harley for many years engaged in annual meetings to among other things agree on price fixing of comparable models. Arthur Davidson also pushed for Indian/Harley dealers to not handle other brands though many favored the Cleveland 2 stroke as an entry model.
They went to a small 4 cylinder, and then a 45 (750) and then a 61 (1000) in 28/29. This red bike is a 1929 so I'm assuming it is a 1000.
Less than 500 of each of the 750's and 1000's were made before they pulled the plug on Cleveland motorcycles.
the coolest thing that caught my eye was the dash or whatever you want to call that piece with the ampere gauge.
not bad for a bike that was being priced below the Indian 4 cylinder. I'm assuming...
no special tools required.
pretty sweet. I have to admit the 2 stroke got me looking at the 4 cylinder. never paid much mind to either of them.
up next. Rhinebeck 2011....
This is the best that I've seen,you take amazingly good photos,thanks.
I vote for a sticky. I love the cast iron age and the uniqueness of all the pre WWII machines. I always love the state/county fairs with the implements of the era.
Everyone of the machines you have posted are new to me. Never seen any of them before.
Love contraptions, the more convoluted, the better.
That 4cyl Cleavland is just amazing. Steel, cast iron, cast aluminum and some bronze all showing. In that era, aluminum was very expensive. That just might be the first of commercial cast aluminum in production. High volume aluminum smelters did not exist before WWII. How did they use aluminum that early without blowing the price of the machine beyond any market at the time?? Might be one of the primary reasons why they failed.
Sure looks like a most beautiful attempt to bring a new material to the market.
Went back and saw some of the closeups. Could be painted cast iron. Which is it? I was under the impression there was NO commercial use of aluminum before WWII, certainly not for consumer goods.
This thread is off to a great start. Does he have any Crockers there?
The ingenuity of the early designers has never ceased to amaze me. Imagine to be able to sit and have a conversation with some or any of these guys would be no less than amazing.