Motorcycles & Parks. Activism

Discussion in 'The Sandbox - AKA Flatistan' started by Visigoth, Feb 2, 2013.

  1. motomike14

    motomike14 Thumper Crusader

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    One park visit = $5

    State income tax at 5-9% of money earned over $30,000 = $1,500 = $2,700 per year

    Pointing a finger for the hell of it to stick to the man? = free.

    Think I know the 2 options I'd select.

    Kudos for speaking up, but be careful what you wish for. We dual sport/motorcycle riders are a rare breed, and I'd hate for all of us to go extinct and end up in the concrete jungle.
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  2. Vico1

    Vico1 The Maestro

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    I am all for MC rights. Fought for it hard!
    For over 40 years I rode/raced dirt bikes. It was a constant hassell. Never any land and if you did find a park it was very costly. In 2008 I gave up and strated riding DS because it was legal. I was treated like any other bubba in a cage. I have had a BLAST since then with a whole new world out there to explore.

    I LIKE being classified the same as a car.

    Keep those names and phone numbers of all you contracted... you may need them again when they start looking to ban anything on two wheels....
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  3. Visigoth

    Visigoth Salty Pirate

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    Thanx for all the comments. I must admit I posted here looking for any and all oppinions and even healthy debate. What I never expected from ADV was for the vast majority of the input to be of the "lay low, eat your scraps, and hope the owners of the house dont notice you" kind. I am certain that if we all supported each other any time motorcyclists were being descriminated or being taken advantage of then we would not have to act like an occupied population skirting along the edges of walls in hope that the real citizens dont throw us in internment camps. If we were more unified and proactive we would actually have trails created and maintained with the millions of dollars the state has collected from offroad motorcycle titles. If we worked together they would not dare treat us like second class citizens and let motorist go with a slap on the wrist when they kill or mame us simply because "it is their fault for riding one of those things". I don't do well in the cockroach role and will continue fighting for us any time I believe our government or any other group is taking advantage of us or screwing us. I spoke to one of the commisioners who worked on the fee mandate last night and he was baffled we were being charged because apparently motorcycles had been specifically discussed at lenght and deemed not required to pay parking due to size and lower enviromental impact. He is trying to get the minutes of those metting for me to help me "reeducate" the Parks people. Apparently a ride to the park will be unnecesary...
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  4. Wlfman

    Wlfman Long timer

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    $5 parking. park your bike taking up a full spot and get over it.
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  5. Vico1

    Vico1 The Maestro

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    You might want to hear about a bunch of P-cola locals (about 25 or more) who have banded together to start an OHV site with said money. Its been about 11 years now and we are still fighting the good fight. Meetings, hearings, email campaigns, letters to REPs etc. There is actually land set aside and some buildings there for public use but NO riding .... maybe in another 10 years our hard PAID tax money will do some good. Oh BTW the Governer of our fair state had voted against using this money for Motorcycle Parks and has given it back to the general fund! Go figure.
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  6. Visigoth

    Visigoth Salty Pirate

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    Thank you for letting me know Vico1. That fund has been a sore spot for me ever since I bought the CRF450R to race FTR on the first year they started forcing us to buy titles. I spent several years trying to make some headway including one serving on the board of FTR but was not able to get any traction with the state. I'm glad one group was able to get together and make something happen. If you ever need some assistance of a software/data nature or anything else please make sure and PM me. Please let me know if there is some kind of website for the ridding area or a way to find it. The only legal place to ride down here is a motocross track. There use to be two, Air Dania, but they closed it down due to noise. Ironic considering it was half a mile from the Fort Lauderdale International Airport directly below the flight path among warehouses and empty lots.

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  7. Vico1

    Vico1 The Maestro

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    Here is one link there may be others... or even a web site...

    http://www.floridaforestservice.com/forest_recreation/recreation_news.html

    But remember... this place is still NOT OPEN to the public or even workers at this point.

    You might also try Hard Labor Creek Park near Chiply... they are pretty good trails as I understand it.
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  8. Visigoth

    Visigoth Salty Pirate

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    That is fantastic. Thank you for the info. I have a few friends that will be stoked to hear that something finally came from their ridding fund. Even if it's all the way out there. Hopefully they will use this as a model as suggested by that website. The Chipley area, is that the one close to the correctional facility? I think I raced a few harescrambles there.
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  9. tenfiddy

    tenfiddy Demotivational Poster Child

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    I can vouch for Hard Labor Creek Park. Great trails, good people.
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