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Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Reverend12, Sep 23, 2009.
Unless the first bikes are already under deposit and will be sold
They'd still want them to be seen by prospective future buyers. Salesmen are always trying to sell. I hear they're taking deposits for a POSSIBLE 2019 release.
Haven't been here in a few months, but I see absolutely nothing has changed.
I'd wager many prospective buyers have long since tired of waiting for one to show up and have moved on to something else.
Seems to me Motus created publicity too far in advance of a real product.
I still like the concept and wish them success, but I'll never be a buyer at their chosen entry point.
Even if it was, would you really spend $31K on this bike?
Someone else? yes.
I was a prospective buyer until the prices were posted. I was in for up to $25k. I would still be in if the prices were more my speed as it is was everything I was looking for in a bike at the time.
This 'delay' is nothing. More public updates would be nice. Considering the typical internet keyboard commandos (here included), I am not surprised they are only updating the people who matter. Bystanders are not owed anything.
I don't have a dog in this hunt at all, but am I to assume that by "people who matter", you're referring to people that put a deposit down sight unseen? And by extension, "bystanders" would be the rest of the potential buyers that would rather wait for an actual product before buying in with their money?
Perhaps they hit the media blitz too early in their development cycle as an attempt to create interest and secure capital, but in reality, if you want to have a sustainable group of interested buyers, then I'd think you need to be a little more proactive with letting the word out. Seems to me that the silence is allowing interest to wane significantly.
Time will tell I suppose, but history seems to indicate that the market isn't too kind to high end niche market boutique brands.
people who matter- deposit holders, investors, prospective dealers, people with actual cash invested (or will be investing)
Bystanders- everyone else
Some of the media blitz last year was to drum up potential dealer support network (that is where the 'tour' stops were). You can also drum up investor capital that way as well.
Now the long, painful EPA and DOT hurdles need to be dealt with. Last update was related to that. Status? No update. I haven't bothered to ask directly as it isn't an issue for me to worry about. Anyone here who would like to know can just email Brian Case through the main website as I did early on.
Interest wane? From who? Anyone who is buying in isn't reading this group for an update.
I guess you missed my point that you can't "sell" to only your current "clients". If you are to be successful you have to constantly be attempting to find the next "wave" of buyers. Only giving updates to those already invested in your idea does nothing to ensure future sales.
Interest from who? Are we talking a one off item with a one time production run, or a company attempting to enter an already competitive marketplace? Who knows how many potentially interested parties may be waiting in the wings. Without something to keep them interested they are just as likely to assume nothing's going to happen, and just move on with interest elsewhere.
Or, at least that's my way of looking at it...
The motorcycle mags will be all over this bike when it hits. That will bring enough hype for the target market. Expect the same social media/mag media hype as before. You only need 200-400 sales a year if you believe the mfg targets stated early on (directly from the founders).
Once the bike actually hits pavement this thread will fire right back up going back in the same circles.
But it would be nice if they at least posted teaser pics of parts being assembled etc, or kept some type of blog going just so people know something is happening down there.
I guess that's my point... just something to keep the embers glowing for those with a casual but legitimate interest...
Why doesn't someone who lives near the "factory" do a ride by and snap a few spy shots for us.
I would but it's 38 hours away.
deadhorse by Shooter158, on Flickr
I've said this before ;
How friggin' long do think it should take to build a production bike from scratch?
It's been about 3 1/2 years so far, that seems pretty normal to me.
When did we first start hearing about Horex? Just like Motus dropping DI, Horex has stepped away from the supercharger on theirs.
Maybe Motus just doesn't care enough about daily email updates for all of you non-buyers.
I think you're right about that, but have to say, if you're only going to sell 200-400 units a year, it's foolish to have 'dealers'. Why share the profits for that low of a volume. Might as well throw in a factory tour and have people fly and ride or toss in free truck freight delivery for $30k+.
The biggest problem Motus will have when and if they do get production bikes out, is that the Mags will do a shoot out with other Sport Touring bikes like the FJR and C-14, R1200RT and while the Motus will be sexy as hell, it will be the only chain drive bike and the C14 will probably walk away from it, if not the FJR too. Hp on paper is one thing, in the real world, it's another. Not to mention all the other aspects they will compare. Bolt on Givi bags on a $30k bike don't look that... inspired.
Factory tour to see your bike being build would be great PR! Sort of like the BMW tours way back in the 80's (not sure if the do that anymore).