MOTUS: New Sport Tourer to be built in Alabama

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Reverend12, Sep 23, 2009.

  1. Dirty bike

    Dirty bike Eval Innovations Inc

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    Gee, how about assembly technicians, quality control inspectors, manufacturing engineers, and the little infrastructure items like being able to paint parts or create an assembly line for production. Last I read, they still have 3 employees. You can farm out a lot of parts and assemblies, but it still takes a lot to build those into bikes. The less you control in house, the more often you get stuck waiting for a vendor.

    <shrug> does going to the factory in Portland count? You know, before they were sold, again. When they didn't have a transmission that would hold up and couldn't deliver on their production promises. They had a bunch of 916s, but not any they would sell.

    Actually, you missed my point with the 'local' dealer, (about 140 miles away). I think they are still on board, but they removed all reference to Motus because there isn't anything to tell/show people.

    Tell me you can deliver in 2015 and do it in 2014 and you're the Man. Tell me you can deliver in 2012 and deliver in 2014 and you suck.

    As for not seeing any production bikes meaning nothing. You're right, it means nothing that I haven't see any. It means something that no one else has either.

    I know plenty about what it takes to bring a new product to market. I've spent the last 30 years in manufacturing and have been part of the process of doing prototype and production work to bring complex mechanical products to life and get them to the customer. Yeah, I know how marketing tends to screw everyone by jumping the gun. I know how vendors can screw your time lines to hell and deliver parts/assemblies that were not what you spec'd, despite the first article items being spot on. I know how little things like paint and VOC's can cause havoc with quality control and licenses and fines.

    The quality control alone on vendor supplied parts is a big chunk of time and cost and manpower.

    And I've seen companies nearly fold that were doing well when a distributor jumped the gun and advertised products that we were developing, but were not ready for production, killing sales of current production while end users 'waited' for the new item that was still over a year out.

    Motus has a chance, even at the current pricing. As long as people want the bikes, they will sell them. But customers are fickle and grow tired of waiting for things that don't materialize. From the moment you start showing off your products, you have a window of interest to take advantage of. Motus might have another year, then the window will close. Today's interested buyers will have moved on and bought other bikes.

    None of us will really know how the Motus will sell until people start buying them and riding them and talking about them.
  2. kirb

    kirb should be out riding

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    The above would tell me you would be the LAST person bitching about how long it is taking Motus to produce product. Making something from nothing has a million things you didn't think of...they tend to bite you in the ass at the worst times. You know this, but still ask the questions you asked?

    Maybe they hype did exactly what it is supposed to do...bring hype to the name, get people interested, and maybe get some investors.
  3. Dirty bike

    Dirty bike Eval Innovations Inc

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    I'm not really bitching about how long it's taking them, but more wondering if they will indeed get some bikes out.

    Like the rest of us in this thread, I'm not privy to any inside info. I've had some contact with them via email and been left wondering where their priorities are. At times I have wondered if they plan on making big money on the engine sales and the bikes are secondary to that.

    When you only have three SKUs, in terms of end products, it does simplify things a little. Start up inventory is a huge investment, even with Just In Time and LEAN working for you in today's mfg environment.
  4. RedRocket

    RedRocket Yeah! I want Cheesy Poofs

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    Maybe what Motus is Not doing is expending energy playing around with the press, and focusing on the job at hand.
  5. madeouttaglass

    madeouttaglass The AntiHarley

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    Is there an address to the factory? I might be riding by Birmingham in a day or so and would like to take a picture.

    edit- found it:
    1500 1st Avenue N # R115
    Birmingham, AL 35203-1865
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    DAKEZ Long timer

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  7. kirb

    kirb should be out riding

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    Email Lee or Brian and ask for a tour. They have been very supportive with getting back to the interested riders. I haven't talked with them in awhile, but they were pretty responsive when they were not on tour.

    Visit with an open mind and you might be surprised with what you really see.
  8. madeouttaglass

    madeouttaglass The AntiHarley

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    I just emailed them through their website. I will be in Birmingham tomorrow so that is extremely short notice. They likely won't even see the email before tomorrow and I said that in my email. Either way, I wish them the best.
  9. madeouttaglass

    madeouttaglass The AntiHarley

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    I received two very nice personal emails from Lee. Unfortunately they had the day planned- as I expected. I'm impressed that he would get back to me so quickly. He seems very polite and professional. I look forward to seeing one for real some day. I love the LS series of engines that this is based off of. I've had one for 9 years and can tell you that old school pushrod engines can be just as fun as DOHC and other "high tech" bits.
  10. rocker59

    rocker59 diplomatico di moto

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    You should email him the link to this thread! :lol3
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  13. whisperquiet

    whisperquiet Been here awhile

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    Where is the Motus?
  14. KMC1

    KMC1 There is no spoon.

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    Gorgeous!
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    A few years back there was one on display at Barber Motorsport Museum. Sooooo nice and way ahead of it's time.

    Regards, Paul
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    opmike Choosing to be here.

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    Looks like some kind of pokemon character.
  17. 10/10ths

    10/10ths Road Trip Fool

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    ...I saw the Morbidelli at Barber. I remember reading about it in the bike mags and thinking it was super cool.

    When I saw the real thing at Barber, I thought it was one of the ugliest things i have ever seen.

    The engine was beautiful, but the bike fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.
  18. Colorado_Rider

    Colorado_Rider Banned

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    Weren't they supposed to be for sale by now?
  19. Worroll

    Worroll Been here awhile

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    "Spring/Summer 2013 delivery" still a lot of spring left.
  20. KMC1

    KMC1 There is no spoon.

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    Anybody heard anything lately? :ear