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Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Reverend12, Sep 23, 2009.
It's good that people are interested
Don't hold back like that, just express yourself already!
Uh? They sold hundreds already - I've seen 3 on the road around here.
....You are thinking of Tesla. Tesla has sold a handful of cars.
Fisker has sold ZERO cars and got 3/4 of a Billion dollars of our tax money.
As to my "spirited" answer to the folks complaining about pricing being delayed, sure, they gave a date and they missed it. That is nothing new to start-up businesses. The Honda Jet was supposed to be in customer's hands by now. The Boeing Dreamliner was three YEARS late. Where are our Cold Fusion powered room temperature super conducting wires? Where are the flying cars?
Building a new line of high performance motorcycles and the associated dealer network is incredibly difficult.
It ain't easy.
Why would Fisker recall 239 Karmas if they haven't produced any?
I agree with you in your comments about Motus, but you're wrong on Fisker. I saw 2 of them last week. I typically see a few every week, just like apessino said.
In what way?
From everything I have seen heard and read they are very close. The GT has higher pegs and an slightly more forward lean but nothing that should evoke "waaaaayyyy better ergos"
....Alright, sorry to threadjack.
So, Fisker has actually sold a few hundred cars. Bravo. We buy 13 Million cars a year in the USA. 300 cars is a drop of water in the Pacific ocean.
The point being, Fisker got $700 million from the Feds and they have sold a few hundred cars. Motus does not have that kind of financial backing. It will be a huge uphill battle for Motus to get enough operating money to pull this off.
I truly hope Motus makes this work as I want one bad.
My point was that this endeavor is extremely hard and people need to give them a break on the "missed pricing announcement deadline" stuff.
I really hope they can sell these machines for about the price of a Goldwing. That would be amazing.
I'm done. Seriously.
....I sat on the Motus and it has THE PERFECT riding position. And, I can flat foot my 29 inseam self.
Done. Really. seriously.
Just go to cycle-ergo and compare.
I knew it.
Ever sit on one? The net difference between a Sprint GT and a Motus is night and day.
I saw them in AZ. Would like to order one. Maybe Tuesday I well see if I can.
You and the other guy say that but the ergo web page linked above just does NOT back up your opinion.
First off, numbers on a 3rd party website don't tell the whole story. If my fat ass is more comfortable on one bike than another then the ergos on the more comfortable bike are waaaaayyy better for ME. That is my opinion. My elbows and my asshole are entitled to it.
Did I say the Triumph is a bad bike? No.
Did I say that no one else may find the Triumph's ergos better? No.
The only quibble may be that I said "better" while implying "for me.". Fine. Allow me to clarify. The Motus ergos felt waaaay different TO ME. In my opinion, the Motus is much better suited to what I look for in riding position. Please don't misconstrue my opinion as fact. You should try them for yourself.
As for that site, it lists the Motus as having a 2" lower seat and 10% difference in knee angle. You don't think that's enough to support noticing a significant difference between the 2 bikes?????
Sounds like plenty to this 30'' inseam and boney ass...
Looks like a bike is at the D.C. show. Wonder if it will come to Chicago. The ex, system still looks like prototype stuff. Will the production system be as small or will the silencers have to grow to meet sound limits?
My bet is that not only will it be bigger and quieter but it will have a catalytic converter in it somewhere and be covered in heat shields for most of the run.
The goal is to meet emissions without a cat. As of last fall, they're on track to do so.
I have only sat on a Motus and a Sprint GT, I have not actually ridden them. They felt very different to me. The Sprint GT felt more leaned over, the Motus seemed more upright. The Motus guys also told me that they were working to make the handlebars and other things (not sure what) adjustable to fit a variety or riders. I like the Sprint GT. I'd love to on a Motus.