MOTUS: New Sport Tourer to be built in Alabama

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Reverend12, Sep 23, 2009.

  1. funhouse

    funhouse Overdue

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    I built a chain case for a VFR ten years ago and added a Scottoiler...when I sold the bike with 35K a few years later, the OEM chain was still perfect with lots of adjustment left.....I like the simplicity of a chain drive as well as the gear ratio options....chains, like motorcycles, have improved over the years and since most riders start with (and make all their mistakes) a chain drive system, chains have gotten an undeserved 'bad rap' ... imo.... Bruce
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  2. GB

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    Chain drive isn't so bad, but belt drive is much better.. ya, you can change sprockets on chain drive, but that's mostly done for folks who ride off road and want a gearing change, for a sport touring bike, a belt makes perfect sense. I know I'd never change the sprocket ratios on a sport touring bike, so I'd go with belt drive if I had a choice. No maintenance, no mess.
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  3. Rich Dubbya

    Rich Dubbya Pimpadimpolis

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    Seems cool . Just hope they don't price themselves out of the market .
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  4. earthroamer

    earthroamer Stuck in Pindadesh

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    This is a Race Engine Technology article about the development of the Motus V4 engine. Lots of gory details. Apparently a push-rod, direct injection V4 is interesting some other people in Indy Car and Le Mans.
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  5. earthroamer

    earthroamer Stuck in Pindadesh

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    It lives!


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  6. El Guero

    El Guero V4 Whore

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    I really like this bike... Reminds me of a big American version of my ST1100 :lol3 Would like to hear them talk more about the parts availability, the Autozone/NAPA thing. Too bad I won't have money for one for a looooong time :cry
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  7. viajero

    viajero Too old to be a nOOb

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    Very few automobile mfgrs use direct injection as of yet, and no m/c mfgrs that I know of. Not even that many auto racing series allow it, to my knowledge. So it's got to be hugely expensive to develop, especially for a start-up m/c mfgr. Hope they have plenty of capital.

    Anyway, sounds intriguing, and too expensive for me. Hope they can make it work.
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  8. (none)

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    Holy shit. i can't wait ot see the finished product
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  9. Lornce

    Lornce Lost In Place

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    The one engineer was channeling Erik Buell: "We just want to make this simple and focus on the rider, the experience".
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  10. a1fa

    a1fa Throttle Jockey™

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    Wow! That engine is bitchin'. I was waiting for it to explode at the end, but no go....
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  11. Mike in Oregon

    Mike in Oregon Been here awhile

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    The video of the engine is f'n rad. I wish them the best of luck. Hopefully some wealthy first buyers can get the ball rolling. I want to see this thing live.
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  12. Benz

    Benz Been here awhile

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    Wow. This thing is sweet. Love the engine. A muscle car motorcycle. Such a cool concept and design. I didn't read through this whole post but when are these things going to start coming out? And for how much? If the price isn't too crazy I would definitely be willing to get one and support an American company like this.
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  13. RedRocket

    RedRocket Yeah! I want Cheesy Poofs

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    What a sound !

    Like a Hot Rod.
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  14. BigEasy

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    Matbe there is a specific reason why not to use it for a bike? I know Yamaha marine has been using high pressure direct injection in some of their VMax outboards for several years so they have the technology to start from.
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  15. Uncle Ernie

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    I lose interest in websites when;
    There's no company phone number big and bold.
    I have to click on something to open the website after I just OPENED THE WEBSITE.
    I have to look hard for a picture of the ding-dong product. I have no idea what this bike looks like and that's too bad for them- not me.
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  16. Tripped1

    Tripped1 Likely Lost.

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    :clap

    Nice find, that will give me something to do since I'm stuck at work making sure the place doesn't burn down.
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  17. 10/10ths

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    ...gasoline direct injection is VERY expensive. On a naturally aspirated engine, the benefits usually do not outweigh the cost.

    On a forced induction engine, direct injection helps a lot.

    Direct injection has a cooling effect on the intake charge and allows you to run high compression levels without detonation.

    So, you can run high compression AND turbocharge or supercharge on top of that for big gains in power and fuel economy.

    Look at Ford's "Eco-Boost" engines in the Taurus SHO and the Flex Eco-Boost.

    Also look at BMW's 3 Series twin-turbo, direct injected straight six.

    Also look at VW/Audi's 2.0 liter turbo direct injected FSI engine.

    The cost is due to the need for a second, high pressure fuel pump on the engine to deliver the ultra-high pressure the Direct Injection needs. You also need very strong, stainless steel fuel rails to handle the pressure. These item add a lot of cost per engine. Because GDI doesn't give a huge benefit naturally aspirated, you don't see naturally aspirated GDI very often.

    Ferrari has it on their new LeMans race car, and Ford will launch a Gasoline Direct Injected naturally aspirated 2.0 liter 4 cylinder in the Focus next Spring. Ford is investing in this because they will have a turbocharged "Eco-Boost" version of this engine in the future and that will absorb the cost.

    Sooooooo, this new bike engine is really interesting, it will be hugely expensive. This bike will be super expensive, no way you buy this bike for less than $35,000.

    But, it will be a hot rodder's dream, because with GDI you could fit a nice blower in the valley of the "Vee", or put a coupla small turbos and it, all kinds of crazy, fun, expensive, stuff.

    I wish them ALL the best, but if Honda can't make money selling motorcycles in this economy, these guys don't have much of a chance.

    Look at Cyz(?), Confederate, et. al.

    I want them to build it, I WANT this bike, believe me, it is PERFECT for me, but I am afraid I will never be able to afford one if it ever sees the light of day.

    :beer

    :lurk
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  18. Jasper ST4

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    I hope they make it, I'd love to see a competitive US player in the market. The exhaust looks awfully close to where your knees would be though.
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  19. Ace100

    Ace100 Monkeywrencher

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    I don't think making motorcycles is the end game for these guys. It's all about the motor. The bike is something to get press and public awareness, maybe a land a spot in the Neiman Marcus catalog. I think they're gunning for the auto industry as a supplier or to license their designs.
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  20. eakins

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    maybe they need to get him onboard.