MOTUS: New Sport Tourer to be built in Alabama

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Reverend12, Sep 23, 2009.

  1. scrannel

    scrannel Scrannel

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    Honestly, and you may find this trivial, but I do not find the bike exciting to look at. Or even different. If I were starting with a clean piece of paper...
  2. capriccio

    capriccio Long timer

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    Motus is in the same ball park as Ferrari, Lamborghini, Bugatti, Maserati, etc. etc.. Not as expensive but just as exclusive to most riders, and in that light it is irrelevant to most riders. So it will get its ass kicked, as it should, in a society were fortunes are made satisfying the wants of the masses, not the few. Its class warfare boys, get your colts ready, the snobs are coming. BUT most riders if they were being totally honest without filters, would wish and hope that Motus would become the next American legend, I do.
  3. scrannel

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    Ferrari etc. are now, basically, irrelevant. I can buy a C6 Corvette that will eat far more expensive "exotics" for lunch at a fraction of the price. Ferrari even licensed the Magnetic suspension from Cadillac to stay competitive (available on Corvettes since the 90s). It's not about satisfying the masses, it's plain and simple the march of technology. You don't NEED a Ferrari, but you sure can WANT one. Same with the Motus. But it's got to look (and be) a lot more interesting to make me WANT one.
  4. nachtflug

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    anyone who heard that thing running via the youtube link a few pages back on the Barber track and states they didn't find that bike "interesting" (keeping in mind it's a V f'ing 4) is either lying, has an agenda, jealous, inept, or all of the above.
  5. bikeama

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    Hope they make it. I gave up waiting and got a k1600GT, almost as much as the MOTUS. May look at one in a year or two if I get tired of the the BMW. Yes I am one the the old retired guys who saved and can afford to pay cash for one if I like it.

    Bill in STockton
  6. Rick G

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    If you really think about it, the Motus is in the reach of far more riders than given credit for. The comparison to Ferrari or Maserati whose entry level cars are in the $200,000 range doesn't wash. The average new car right now is in the $30,000 range so the exotic cars are 7-10 times the cost of an average car. Go up one level to BMW 3 series, Auid A4 or Mercedes C Class and those are around $50-60,000, the exotics are still 3-4 times that of these already upmarket cars.

    Now look at Motus at $35,000. The average new bike is around $10,000 so a Motus is only 3 times the average new bike. Now go up market to BMW, Ducati etc and the average new bike is in the $15-20,000 range so stepping up to the Motus is only at most a little more than double and in the case of a top BMW1200RT wich is now in the $22-24,000 you are only paying about a 50% premium. Or about the same if you jump from an average $30,000 car to a Bimmer.

    Now factor in that the Motus is being marketed as an up market and limited production alternative to BMW and their are quite a few folks out there that can afford to buy one in cash or be able to afford the payments.

    How many guys do you know with a garage full of newer bikes? Or has a used $30,000 Porshce or Vette in their driveway? Or maybe a $40,000 boat in dry dock? I am not rich, but I know quite a few guys that fit that mold who live for thier passion and are willing to spend money on it even if they are just working class guys like the rest of us. They find a way to play.

    I just don't get why so man think that a fairly reasonable $35K will be unsurmountable to so many when in fact it is just the opposite if you are being realistic. I am not saying that there are more who could afford than not, but there are enough to make a modest sales goal attainable.

    Really, I think many of the bashers here really want one and are just pissed that they chose the wrong profession or didn't pay enough attention in school to learn how to get ahead in the world.

    Rick G
  7. bk brkr baker

    bk brkr baker Long timer

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    Understood , affordable.

    No, not really, but feel free to think so.

    I did go out and buy a tractor this year at nearly $40,000. Not real glamorous I know , but I needed a tractor after the old one seized and there wasn't time to rebuild it.That will come later.
    The thing is with the tractor, I use it for doing work. And it is finanaced at 0% for 5 years and fully tax deductable.
    Motorcycles are toys/luxury items. I buy used and seldom spend more than $2000 on one.
  8. Rhino-1

    Rhino-1 Been here awhile

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    I'd say on this forum (if you stay out of the KLR threads) you are in the distinct minority... :D 2,000 is what many ADV'ers guys spend on suspension alone...
  9. Rhino-1

    Rhino-1 Been here awhile

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    Well said, Rick.
  10. hankgs

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    That's 'cause you live in STockton...:1drink
  11. LoneTraveler

    LoneTraveler Captain Zoomtastic

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    Aha! I was waiting for when you'd come in here and start shitting all over the place. :D

    To be honest, I don't think I'd want to even consider riding something that expensive. Just the thought of a possible issue, be it a rock chip, someone hitting me from behind, and so on, would be enough to put me off a test ride, at that price point.

    I am rooting for these guys, though, by all means. My thinking is, though, that companies who put all their eggs into one very expensive basket often do not survive very long.

    Look at Fiat: the 500 is not selling well, at all. Smart is starting to see a decline in sales as well. These are a niche car product, so consider how low the volume is going to be with not just a motorcycle, but a sport-tourer to boot.

    I love the idea of this bike, the very concept of it makes me fizz. Who knows, maybe this will be the bargain of the decade on the used market in a few years. I certainly hope so...
  12. LoneTraveler

    LoneTraveler Captain Zoomtastic

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    Now there are two companies that I'm really rooting for. I'd LOVE to have one of their bikes for commuting.

    Shame I live in an apartment: no place to plug the fucker in...
  13. rotten

    rotten LOST AGAIN

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    Zero motorcycles are made in Scotts Valley CA, very near to where I live, see them often. I don't think you would have any problems riding their smaller DS model up tight stairs :D
  14. LoneTraveler

    LoneTraveler Captain Zoomtastic

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    I've been tempted! Had to carry an old airhead engine up to my 3rd floor apartment in my old building, was helping a friend re-ring it and do some other work. It'd be interesting to see if I could get an extension cord that's long enough...

    Or I could just build a small solar array and hook it up to that. :D
  15. Worroll

    Worroll Been here awhile

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    I think this thread is going around in circles....
  16. Doug Pirahna

    Doug Pirahna Adventurer

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    Yeah, we're right back to the "How dare they charge that much!" attitude. I suppose there should be a commission that decides what a new start up should be allowed to charge, or if their product is even appealing enough to be produced at all.
  17. bk brkr baker

    bk brkr baker Long timer

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    KLR's?

    Yep , I have 3 all of them are '92 models . Less than $3000 in the bunch.
  18. Chickenstrip

    Chickenstrip Been here awhile

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    I imagine that a lot of you got the same email I received this morning, stating that the Motus received the "Best Dreambike" award from Motorcyclist. Financially, that's where the Motus sits for me ... out of my budget. But I like the bike and I hope the company succeeds.

    One question: How many legs have been burned by the headers? I've never seen the bike in person, but those very hot pipes sure look like a ticket to painful burns.
  19. bross

    bross Where we riding to?

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    Haven't heard anyone whose ridden it ever mention the headers.
  20. Gadget Girl

    Gadget Girl Been here awhile

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    I have really long legs ( flatfoot almost any bike) and the headers are way forward of them.