MOTUS: New Sport Tourer to be built in Alabama

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Reverend12, Sep 23, 2009.

  1. iyaoyas98

    iyaoyas98 Bored Silly

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    Just got up close to a MST and a MST-R at Barber this past weekend.

    I'm checking on the realities of living with one kidney so I can spring for a R.
  2. bk brkr baker

    bk brkr baker Long timer

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    I went to the Motus City Bikle Night at Slices in Birmingham last Sat. night. I threw a leg over the base model. It felt pretty good to me.
    I like the bike , it's all bussiness and no fluff. I wish them well and wonder what the monthly payment would be spread over 84 months... hmm in 84 months I could just get my Social security check sent to Motus and not have to worry with it.:lol3
  3. rocker59

    rocker59 diplomatico di moto

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    $438 if you finance $30,000 at 6% of 84mos/7yrs.

    :eek1
  4. limeymike

    limeymike Who Me?

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    Stupid money when there are bikes that will be better for 1/2 the price.
  5. whisperquiet

    whisperquiet Been here awhile

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    I was at the AHRMA event at Barber last weekend and took the time to look at/sit on the MOTUS.............the fit and finish on the display bikes was awful with wires hanging everywhere, ill fitting body work, rough castings, etc. $30,000?? WTF, over.
  6. Sierra Thumper

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    Yep those things are gawdawful overpriced for what you're getting......they won't make it for long with their current game plan. To bad every american sportbike goes down the same way :baldy

    I guess the U.S. isn't meant to produce a meaningful sportbike.....even tho we are the only country to ever put men on the moon :rofl
  7. Motard_Menace

    Motard_Menace Been here awhile

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    I give them 2 years if they indeed found some backers with $$$ and then it will be tits up......$10K more for a touring bike that is subpar in comparison to the Connie, FJR, RT, Trophy, ST etc, etc.....will never survive. They would be better off doing custom builds of the bikes for folks with the coin. Go the route of Confederate and use all kinds of crazy materials and get people to pay $70-$80K per unit.

    On a side maybe a guy should pick one up and never use it. Might be worth 2-3 times as much in 30 years since it will have a short run as one of the few American Sport Touring Rides.......:D
  8. Worroll

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    If that's true- that is absolutely horrible. At this point their demo's should be mint. If not that's not a very good sign for them. I think they can get away with the high price tag in the limited quantities, but they better be PERFECT.
  9. Dave.0

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    I have yet to see one of these bikes in the flesh, but I agree they should be rolling art at the price. Something along the lines of the fit and finish you see in a Bimota or previous MV Augustas where even parts nobody would ever see are finely crafted and well thought out.
  10. whisperquiet

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    They Motus bikes were crude looking (like the first year Victory bikes)...........especially when compared to the Erik Buell Racing bikes..............they looked great. I am not in the market for either bike.................................................BUT, if I was..............the Buell bikes all the way.


    http://www.erikbuellracing.com/

    http://www.motusmotorcycles.com/mst-01.html
  11. eatpasta

    eatpasta Lawnmower Target

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    agree.

    At first I was completely willing to sell at least two of my bikes in order to get somewhere near a solid down payment for one of these until the real world estimates came thorough on the pricing.
    unfortunately, making a very high quality bike using USA workers, on USA soil is going to be much more expensive than a massive established company elsewhere.

    I would love more than anything to support a new, domestic bike maker but for the price of having an entire garage of pretty incredible bikes (or BUILDING a garage.....) I have to pass. All 6 of my current bikes wouldn't sell for the price of a Motus. Hell my 2012 Passat TDI wasn't as much as a Motus.

    and that's sad because I really want one. I want something made in America that's interesting. The Motus is interesting.
  12. Süsser Tod

    Süsser Tod Long timer

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    That's just not true. Car manufacturers are making quality cars, with USA workers on USA soil and they are making bank. Honda was able to do it too, but they had to shut down because the Goldwing volume wasn't enough to keep the factory alive...

    And that is the problem, volume. They are trying to recover their costs and make profit with too few bikes. Their business model should have been developed around a lower sales price, which would had increased the volume...

    Instead they developed it around a boutique bike pricing scheme, but, they don't have a bike worthy of that price tag.
  13. PhilB

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    Sport tourers don't sell in much volume in the first place, so I don't think that would have worked very well. The bikes that sell in volume are (a) cruisers, (b) dirtbikes, and (c) sportbikes, and all of those market niches are packed full.

    And we don't know whether they have a bike worthy of that price tag. It isn't refined and in production yet; they are showing prototypes that are still in development. I'm impressed with the effort and the design so far. I very much look forward to taking a testride once they arrive for real.

    PhilB
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    if that's actually the case then they have certainly set themselves up for failure.

    I can appreciate quality..... but $30K......

    :nah
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    Remember that the big touring bikes aren't far short of that already. Option up a Gold Wing or a K1600GT or GTL, and you're pretty damn close to that. Buy a HD CVO bike, and you're spending more than that, for a bike that has great build quality but is considerably less capable in most ways than the Motus will be. Quite a few of the top sportbikes are at or above $20K these days. I don't think they are necessarily way out in left field on this.

    PhilB
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    I agree, $30K isn't completely crazy but for that kind of money it needs to have some trick components and a meticulous fit and finish. From the words of folks on here and other forums they appear cobbled together, which is acceptable for test bikes but when you are supposedly going into production, not good. For under $20K or just over you can get the new FJR with ABS, Traction Control, Cruise Control, Heated Grips etc...etc..Same can be said for the Connie, BMW, Triumph etc. I'd be hard pressed to pony up $10K more for a bike with none of that and nothing particularly special about it other then being made in the USA. Then you also have to look at dealer support which is going to be tough. I'm also not sure coming up with a new ground up motor was the proper approach either, using a more established manufacturer such as Rotax keeps the cost down and then massage the motor to your liking in house.

    Again I think making a small number of made to order bikes for folks with the coin would be a better method initially. Say in the range of $40K and up depending on the customers specifications. If you turn a profit and start raising brand awareness and capital then they can look at doing a production run. Eric Buell is using this philosophy currently with what he is doing. Making custom ordered race bikes and also components with an eye I am sure on a production bike in the future.

    And least but not last the ST segment of motorcycling is still one of the smaller slices here in the US so you are already starting on shaky ground. I applaud them for giving it a go but it is going to be tough sledding......
  17. Gadget Girl

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    Whisperquiet- The "awful wires" you speak of are the connections for the testing equipment. What you saw were the mockups using the prototypes.

    Yes, they are working for "perfect". That is why the delays in the first model roll outs. They don't want to risk anything being less than absolutely right.


    You're comparing the Pre-production mock-ups with the latest in a long run of Buells. Not to mention you're comparing a sport touring bike to a pure race bike. Might I remind everyone how the first Buells looked?? OMG talk about gawd awful with "wires hanging everywhere" and those were the production bikes!

    Someone also mentioned that they are acting like they are trying to be a Boutique bike maker. DUH! Are y'all finally getting it? YES this is meant to be an exclusive top of the line everything bike. Nothing on this bike is less than the highest quality they could find. It already has exhaust and tuning by Akropovic himself. It already has a custom seat. Etc, Etc, Etc.

    Don't knock it until you sit on one and actually understand the business plan.
  18. scrannel

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    I think most of us figured as much.
  19. whisperquiet

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    It didn't say they were mockups where displayed..............wishing them great success.
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