Mount a Motorcycle Tire Without Using Tools

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Poolside, Jan 7, 2008.

  1. geobum

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    OK...so this may be the most brilliant mechanical trick I've ever seen! I have had some MAJOR challenges trying to mount a new tire to my BMW 650 Dakar rear rim. Reading the posts on various forums this seems to be a substantial challenge for every Dakar owner I've come across, so when I saw this post for mounting the tubeless tire without tools, I figured I had to give it a try myself...even though I'm mounting a tire with a tube.

    And it worked! Brilliantly! Admittedly I modified the procedure slightly to deal with the tube, but it works nonetheless.

    A few details for those who might be interested:
    1) The tube has to go in first... (this sort of goes without saying). Make sure to leave the valve stem sticking out though. I put my first strap on very close to the valve stem to make sure it was tight.

    2) When you push the beads together and strap them tight, make sure you have pushed the tube back up into the tire...otherwise you may risk a pinch. You will probably have to let some air out of the tube to do this.

    3) Lube. Yes I know that it can be done without lube for the tubeless tire, but I wasn't taking any chances. (I've already destroyed one tire trying to mount it to that blasted rim!!!) I went down to my local car tire shop and begged them for a dollop of their Rema Tip Top tire mounting paste (it is only sold in huge buckets...and I couldn't find them locally). I smeared the paste liberally on the rim edge and the tire beads (both sides) and added water to make sure it was nice and slick.

    4) When mounting the tire, start with the valve stem edge first. You may need to grab a flat head screwdriver to help guide the stem to the hole in the rim, but it isn't all that difficult. When you get the valve stem through the hole, put a nut on it to keep it from slipping back out.

    5) Now just push the tire on. Add more water to keep things slick and work both sides of the tire evenly as you would a normal tire installation. Make sure you keep an eye on the tire down where you started and keep it pushed down toward the drop center of the rim.

    6) And just like the photos on the posting, one last push and the tire popped on smooth as can be.

    Thanks again my friend for this brilliant idea! It works like a dream and saved me much pain, blood and the nearly endless stream of profanity that ensued from my previous battle with this rim!! You have my vote for a special AdvRider contribution award.
  2. unklbrad

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    Would you expect this to work on ATV tires, too? The cheap tire mounting guys around here went bust a couple years ago with the Ford dealership, and the ATV dealer who quoted me wants like $40/tire if I don't buy the tires from him.

    What is the best way to remove near-new stock tires from the rim if I want to put them on Craigslist for cheap?

    Another tip I have used: if you have trouble getting a bead to seat on the rim, try wrapping a ratchet strap around the circumference of the tire and tighten until the bead is pushed outward to the rim.
  3. bluecrab

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    I know this is an old thread, but I just wanted to say THANK YOU!

    After an hour of utter frustration changing the front tire on my Ducati Monster, I'm was not looking forward to changing the tires on my FJR. But after seeing this technique, I can't wait to give it a try! I have two shiny new Michelin PR2's just waiting to be installed on the Yamaha and now I'm looking forward to doing the job. Just need to run by Harbor Freight to pick up the straps! :-)
  4. robvann

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    Totally brilliant. I used six zip ties in place of straps and cut them after the tire slipped on the rim. Thanks for the tip.
  5. Air_Bob

    Air_Bob Been here awhile

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    Saw this thread today after a few hours of frustration trying to mount new Distanzias on my DRZ 17" SM rims. Went to HF and picked up the straps for $2 per pair, came home and tried it. It worked great even with the tubes.

    Thanks!
  6. LuciferMutt

    LuciferMutt Rides slow bike slow

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    I'm happy to hear that this trick is working well for so many people. Time to go buy some straps and stop paying the punk "mechanic" kid to scratch all the paint off my wheels.
  7. fishallnight

    fishallnight Fishallnight

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    I had a new set of Kenda's to put on my Strom and decided to try the ziptie method and it works great! I used spoons before and scraatched my rims and took about 20 minutes each tire to get them mounted. I watched the youtube video then bought some big zipties and windex. I zipped the beads together with 6 of the ties, sprayed everything down with windex and about 2 minutes later it was done! Just gotta be sure to get the beads down in the groove of the rim. I did have my wheel sitting on a box made from 2x4's to keep the brake discs off the ground, and finished putting the last part on by stepping on it. But it beats the CRAP out of using those spoons!

    Thank you to whoever came up with this method!!!!
  8. ScEd

    ScEd Dances with Deer

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    I've enjoyed this thread and some of the evolution of techniques and spins on a great idea.
    I have some 150# Ty-Wraps, 20" or so long with a a small tab that allows you to release the Ty-wrap and re-use it. When tightened with a tool it will pull the tire bead all the way in on the stiffest tire.
  9. sittonb

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    Picked up a set of Kenda's for my F800GS. Front went on using traditional irons, cussing etc. The rear was another story, no way. Even using a manual tire changing stand and 3 adults, no way.
    Saw this thread and thought what the heck, as I have 9 1" straps that I use as tie downs, btw all BMW motorcycles come from the factory tied to the crates with these straps, so they are pretty cheap to come by. I strapped the tire up, tube inside, set the valve stem in the hole, secured the nut and started pushing.
    First try, no way. Realized I could tighten the tire more, untill side walls actually touched, making sure tube wasn't pinched and tried again.
    Better but still not there, then wife came out and I had her hold tire down and it went on. Wasn't easy, but it wasn't hard either.
    Now mind you a day before 3 of us couldn't get it to go on. Is this a 1 man job? Probably can be if needed but it does work!!! Yes even with tubed tires.
  10. Poolside

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    Next time, use another strap and lash the tire into the rim dropout.

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  11. Badjuju

    Badjuju Biker Billy

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    A new question in an old thread....

    Would the "waterless" hand cleaner goop that comes in small tubs be OK to use as a bead lubricant? Looks to me like it's almost identical to the tire bead paste they sell for a whole lot more.

    EDIT: The term "waterless" is misleading. Waterless refers to using it to clean hands without the use of water. The main ingredient on the can is water, but it also contains petroleum distillates, nonoxynol-6 (anti-bacterial, I think), triethanol amine, carbomer, magnesium aluminum silicate, and lanolin. Basically, a gelatinous soap...
  12. LuciferMutt

    LuciferMutt Rides slow bike slow

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    So...the consensus so far is that this really works, eh? I can have tires mounted for $20...is it worth doing it this way?
  13. _cy_

    _cy_ Long timer

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    looks pretty neat
  14. Wuwei

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    I think it would work, as does ordinary dish soap or shampoo even. Almost anything slippery works, but for regular use I purchased a jug of RuGlyde from Napa--it is a rubber lubricant designed for this job. Cheap enough though I suspect it is nothing more than dish detergent and water.

    That's a lot cheaper than most of us can get tires done for. I have mounted a half-dozen tires using the strap method and it does work and is reasonable easy to do. The time is in taking off the wheels, putting everything back together, etc. I have some Stubby Tire tools too, which don't mar your rims when you're taking off the old tire.
  15. Chiriqui Charlie

    Chiriqui Charlie Been here awhile

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    I have an even better trick. If I remove the wheel, any of the local tire shops will swap tires for two bucks. <label for="rb_iconid_27">:wink:</label> Being the super nice guy that I am, I generally tip another fifty cents.
    If I drive the bike to a dealer and buy new tires, they do the entire job (front and rear) for $15 <label for="rb_iconid_27">:wink:</label>
  16. calfinm

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    Ive got to put a big :freaky in for this Poolside.. I just put a rear Kenda 761 (tubed) on trying this..a combination of a b@@%%d head cold, general haste, and a few shots of vodka to help me a long and I with a fair amount of struggling got it on...backwards:splat
    Spooning it off I'm convinced its the stiffest sidewall that Ive ever had the misfortune to encounter.

    Round 2 and a bit more lube, taking my time and it just literately slid on to the rim ..couldn't believe it..

    Cheers!
  17. victor441

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    Thanks very much! tried this for the first time today and it worked great, mounted a 150/70 tire with a tube very easily, Rather than lashing straps I used six 24" cable ties and they worked great, got a bag of 8 for $5- FWIW they can be reused too, it is easy to lift the locking tab with a small screwdriver and undo them. Bought a gallon of Ruglyde from Napa per suggestions here and it does seem better than straight soapy water...the tire went on so easily I probably could have not used lubricant but like to anyway since it makes the bead seat much easier.
  18. Poolside

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    <BR>Boy, I haven't checked in here for a while. Thanks for the kudos folks!
    I'm glad many of you found this tire mounting method useful. Cheers!

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  19. Kaanan

    Kaanan Knee deep in snow.

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    I'm no expert, I've probably changed 10 tires in my few years with a motorcycle. But I on average pinch 1 tube for every other tire I change. The cost adds up quick, especially when I was 23, newly married and the only one working. I wish I knew about this trick years ago!
  20. Kaanan

    Kaanan Knee deep in snow.

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    Did I mention I ride a KLR! I am not as cheap as a lot of other people I meet on the road with them, but pinching a tube is a biuzzkill.