Mt Ida, Ark info

Discussion in 'Tejas and the Gulf States' started by ABYSS, Feb 19, 2012.

  1. ABYSS

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    Im in need of some detail info and was hoping to get some assistance. I am going to be up in Mt Ida either the first or second weekend in March. I am looking for single track or some of those lessor traveled forest roads like what I can find when I am up near Jasper.

    I have been doing quite a bit fo research over the last week on ADVRIDER and also TWTEX and some google investigation as well. I havent found much except WOLF Pen Gap and thats not what I am looking for. I will be on my sreet legal 500 XCW and my neighbor will be on his 525 EXC also street legal.



    Can you guys provide some detail please.
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  2. DrLewall

    DrLewall The Human GPS

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    plenty of dirt roads to explore up around the Jasper/Murry area...if you have mapsource, you can make some routes/trax and load em up in your gps and go get lost..lots to see up here...keep your eye open for the Kissin tree...it's south of Jasper.

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    and be aware of the elk too :D

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  3. ABYSS

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    Thanks doc for the affirmation I am quite familiar with the Jasper and the Low Gap area. I love it up there.

    However like I said above I am going to be in Mt Ida just west of Lake Ouchita.


    I have looked on map source as well but not finding much of anything. I did get maps from the forest service of all the forest roads but I was hoping to get some first hand references on what direction to head and where to go. You know as well as I the maps only tell about 25% of the story where experience makes up the rest. In Colorado I don't mind winging it but Arkansas is not the same beast.

    Any help you guys could provide would be greatly appreciated.
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  4. Dragon43

    Dragon43 If you insist.

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    Maybe Nate will stop by or Arkansasrider guy. There are some who know that country pretty good.... Look through the sticky 'ride report' thread..... Xon knows but he got hurt bad & is in the hospital...
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  5. ABYSS

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    Thanks for the info. I have been threw the ark ride report a time or two I must be missing something. I'll print it out this evening and read it all to make sure I don't miss something
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  6. NateLePain

    NateLePain Long timer

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    The maps for the Ouachita NF have been recently updated and wouldn't advise anyone from straying. Not saying, I wouldn't stray, I just wouldn't make it public. The nice thing about Mt. IDA, is you have great forest roads, all around. If it was me, I would map a route(GPS, Forest Maps), allow for a couple reroutes and go from there. arkridergc, apostle2 and arkansawyer will likely be your best ADVRider sources for info. I would PM them.

    Here is a link to a day ride from Petit Jean to Mt. Ida but you could reverse the routes, etc..
    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=656232&highlight=arkridergc

    Here is a link to the Ouachita NF Maps
    http://www.fs.usda.gov/detailfull/ouachita/home/?cid=STELPRDB5156448&width=full

    There are some OHV routes scattered throughout the Ouachita NF and these are marked on the maps. Also, if you know someone with a "KEY" to the gates of land owned by International Paper, you'll have more riding options. That being said, some of the paper land has been up for sale and you might convince a realtor to grant you a day pass. I hope you enjoy your time in AR.

    nlp
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  7. njoytheride

    njoytheride NJOYN' THE JOURNEY

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    I have been through Mt. Ida on the way to the Mena area. A lot of good riding around Mena that doesn't involve Wolf Pen Gap. I saved some tracks somewhere. If you want them "and I can figure out how to post them" let me know.
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  8. ABYSS

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    Yes I'll take any and all I can get then I will make a detail of my travels for others
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  9. Dagwood_55

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    Just north of Mt Ida is a great single track called Wombly Trail.

    Just sneak in and out and you'll be fine.

    Just kiddin...

    There is some single track on Lake Greeson. I think they have a Harescramble somewhere over there by the lake. It is west of Kirby on 70 somewhere.

    Not a lot of help....
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  10. ABYSS

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    not much..:roflthat's the last thing I need to do is turn on some bicycle single track and tick off everyone and there brother.
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  11. wfopete

    wfopete Suffer Fools; Gladly!

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    This is south of Mt. Ida but try Kirby Landing area, just east of Daisy & west of Kirby, AR

    From Hot Springs ​
    – Take Hwy.
    70 S. 42 miles thru Glenwood to
    Kirby.

    From Arkadelphia – ​
    Take Hwy. 8
    West to Amity then Hwy. 84 west to

    Kirby


    From Kirby – ​
    Take Hwy. 70 W.
    2.2 miles to Kirby Landing Rd. then

    south to start (1 mi.)

    ADR is planning to have a AHSCS harescramble race there 11 March.






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  12. Dagwood_55

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    Thats it!!




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  13. ReadyorNot

    ReadyorNot Been here awhile

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    thumb back to page 11 of the "teja and the gulf states" section.
    find the thread entitled "any decent riding in SW arkansas?"
    it contains useful info about "bear creek cycle trail"; it's a dedicated dirt bike/atv trail located on corps of engineers land to the immediate east of lake greeson.
    it's an excellent woods ride - but no place for folks who aren't serious about single track.....
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  14. arkansawyer

    arkansawyer Long timer

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    I've broken a couple of bones over there around Greeson.
    Your bikes are more than capable. How serious are you as riders? Wanting to see ghost towns, hard single track, pretty scenery?

    The museum at Mt. Ida is nice.
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  15. ABYSS

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    We are both serious riders but we drive at WWII tank speeds. I have broken alot of bones in my life and over the years have had enough stitches to make a couple pair of jeans. Ha! For me its all about scenery example.


    http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/4817152_sLFCTK#!i=323575424&k=2xBbs

    this was one of my 14 trips to Colorado. I am 6"1 255 and the SE was great but 98 hp and 400lbs flat wore me out and hence the change back to the wonderful world of thumpers. This trip was 50% forest roads and 50% passes like Hancock, Tincup, slaughterhouse, cumberland, cinnamon, alpine tunnel, and various unlisted single track sets. No pics on the single tracks as with the 400lb beast I was a bit busy hanging on staying alive. I saw a lot of old mines, ghost and mountains towns and wildlife. I like it all.

    I am in it to get away from joe public and relax and enjoy the scenery on jeep roads and tighter track. Maybe sneek into somewhere for lunch and gas then disappear back off into the woods.

    While I'll always love Colorado I was born and raised in PA. and Arkansas is a lot more like back home in the allegheny national forest. Not to mention the fact that it's a lot closer.




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  16. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    That's Bear Creek. It's a short trail, but it's probably the hardest thing I've ridden on in AR. Lots of very steep, rocky descents and climbs. The KTM's should be able to do it no problem, if the riders skill levels are good.
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  17. arkansawyer

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    Wombly is Womble. Womble is bicycle trail and not legal for motorcycles. He was making a joke about sneaking in and out.
    Womble was the original name for a small town in AR, now with another name.
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  18. ABYSS

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    It took all of three seconds to figure that one out. I have some friends going up to expalore there this weekend. I am going to see what they have to report.



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  19. Wudsracer

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    Have you made your ride, yet?
    I just found this thread today.

    Bear Creek Trail is fun and challenging, but the easy trails just east of Kirby Landing took a beating at our hare scramble yesterday. The main trails are unhurt, though. You can ride from Daisy State Park, back to the east to Kirby Landing, to Bear Creek Access, and most of the way south towards Laurel Creek. Right now, the trail is closed for the last two miles to Laurel Creek, so that is the turn-around point. For this week, I'd take the pavement from Kirby Landing to Bear Creek Access, since the Bear Creek trail crossing is pretty deep from rain runoff.

    There is some great gravel road dual sport from Camp Albert Pike to Shady Lake to Tall Peak, to Bard Springs, to Little Missouri Falls, and then back south to Camp Albert Pike. In the winter, the view from Tall Peak is impressive.
    There is also a 8 mile primitive jeep trace from the Little Missouri River through the woods to Shady Lake. It starts by going north of hwy 84 (west of Langley) to the Little Mo; then upriver a mile or so to an old place where wagons used to cross the river. (It is a wet crossing.)


    Between Mt. Ida and Mena (west of hwy 27, north of hwy 8, and south of hwy 270) is a whole network of good gravel backroads.

    Good Riding to You!
    Jim
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  20. ABYSS

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    Thanks for the info I will add it to my notes. I didn't get to go work took the liberty of changing my plans for me.

    I have vacation scheduled and am going to be going a bit later on now. Also due to schedule change we will be staying up in low gap.


    ABYSS
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