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Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by sakurama, May 5, 2009.
See the video posted on a Swedish site covering new interesting stuff:
Nicely put together video. Great work.
On the burnout - I can only suggest a load cell or substantial set of scales hooked up to the bike would have shown the "force" difference between 1 and 2wd.
That would be cool!!!
Simply outstanding work and fantastic video, you guys rock.
Having built a streetfighter I only scratched the surface of what you guys have done so I can fully appreciate the work involved, luv it!
So, how much change to the stock wiring harness was involved in the end?
So far not much but I need to get the bike back from Chris and start working out the whole steering head area. The driveshafts reduce lock but my bars also got moved and I lost my handguards due to the new triple arrangements. I think that I'll need to move the fuse block or possibly reroute it so it might be possible to not need to modify the harness but just do some rearranging.
I think I may be modifying the fairing though to allow for some more steering lock - right now that's the main thing I want to figure out. It's not bad but it needs addressing. If Chris is going to make these kits then there's a lot of small details that he should resolve to make it turnkey. Like the key. The Christini triples have no accommodations for the ignition so Chris put it in the glove box. I convinced him to CNC a small bracket to fit it to the triples. Little things make the difference.
Thanks to all on the video compliments. It was a nice summary of a lot of work.
>>So, how much change to the stock wiring harness was involved in the end?
There's no modifications to the wiring harness except having to change the water temp sensor plug to match the replacement unit. Routing needs to be changed to accommodate the location of the transfer case but no cutting is needed. During reassembly I had some problems with Gregor's harness because some of the insulation was cracked or contacts pulled out and had to be repaired.
>>The driveshafts reduce lock
Its not so much the driveshafts covers limiting travel but how the wiring is routed in that area. Because of the old harness cracking issues I did not want to get into rerouting that bundle and opening a can of worms.
>>my bars also got moved and I lost my handguards due to the new triple arrangements.
Your new top clamp came in so we can reuse the handguards but the Christini handlebar mounts are about 1 1/4" shorter than the ones you originally had, that's why the brake lever hits the fairing. I'll see if I can adapt the originals.
Now that we know it all works it's coming apart again (yes!) for another inspection and taking care of details like ignition switch mount and steering lock stops.
Very cool, great video, write up and pics!!
450 EXC next please
You can go directly to Christini Technologies for a 450 and a 300 2-stroke. They made conversions for Honda and KTM for years and are now making their own bikes. The 450 is a great package.
For me personally I feel that I just extended the effective usefulness of an already amazing all round bike. I'm looking forward to the wet pavement of Portland and the epic fire roads and single track out here.
I'm going to send my front 21" wheel off to Woody next week so I have both wheels.
According to the Christini website http://www.christini.com/bikes/christini-awd-framekit following conversions are still available...
Cut and paste from the website...
CHRISTINI AWD FRAMEKIT $3995 for KTM, $3595 for Honda
The CHRISTINI AWD Framekit allows you to convert your current ride into All Wheel Drive!
The kit is available for a number of KTM and Honda models ranging from 2005-2011 model years.
To convert your KTM or Honda motorcycle, we require either a frame exchange where you send in your current frame for modification, or the purchase of and additional AWD frame that fits your bike. The cost of a KTM frame is market dependent and the Honda frame is a additional $500.
To see if your current bike can be made into a CHRISTINI AWD, see specifications tab.
CHRISTINI AWD Kit Includes:
Custom fuel tank
Custom Talon front hub
Complete AWD system
CNC triple clamps
Conversions are currently available for Only the following KTM and Honda Models:
2005-2011 KTM off-road 250/300 XC and XCW
2005-2011 KTM 450/530 XCRW and EXCR
2005-2012 Honda CRF250X
2005-2012 Honda CRF450X
Please contact Christini for more information on the conversion process and current availability.
So call Steve and check it out. Chris needs to focus on converting the 690 once he gets Gregor all squared away.
Don't be trying to distract chris with ideas of 690's (or 700 twins) he's got another 950 to do first.
Awesome video guys!!
more on the choked carbs?
Having read all the G-spot stuff I thought I'd check out what happened in theNeighbours garage and happened to read through this thread.
I wrote that you should get a real bike aka a BMW instead of fooling around with this Austrian hobby bike. It turned out to be the other way around....
Your thread is toxic and contagious, I have caught the orange sickness and since then bought 2 KTM bikes, one 990 adv and one 950 SE, I still have the BMW and I will keep it as well
I now have the best of what Teutonic ingenuity can produce.
The BMW and the 950 reside in jolly olde Sweden where I reside and the 990 ADV is in Mexico awaiting my arrival for a continued trip to TdF.
Methinks that your KTM has reached to the top of the evolutional mountain.
It has been fun to read and follow.
Hadn't I squandered so much money on MC s I could have had at a six wheel drive by now.
Thanks for letting us share, so far so much fun.
Gregor it's working!
Weather dependent! So far every morning the bike has started without the choke. Damn!
More than just weather! If the bike was inside all night, then weather doesn't matter so much.
When it gets really cold out (I store my bike outside) I have a heat lamp overnight pointed at the oil tank and underside of the engine. Two days ago, when it was in the mid-30's, I didn't even need ANY choke. Usually in that temp I'd need at least half-choke and it would take a while to run without choke.
So, leave the bike outside. Tell me where it is, and leave the keys in the ignition. I'll make sure it's safe.
>>More than just weather! If the bike was inside all night, then weather doesn't matter so much.
It's been outside for a few days and starts up pretty easily in the morning with no choke.