My 950 Refresh or Mission Creep...

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by sakurama, May 5, 2009.

  1. sakurama

    sakurama on an endless build

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    I've tried many times to get Chris to do some updates. I know his mom was in the hospital but I'm as in the dark as you. I'm back the second week of May and the bike will be leaving one way or another. Dates aren't set but Tommy, Gino, Clipper and maybe my friend Ben from PDX will all be meeting in Denver where we'll be shipping our dirt wheels to Woody and then riding all dirt to Portland.

    This bike is coming out of the shop and hitting the dirt this summer if it's the last thing I do. I'll work on the chokes myself this fall.

    Gregor
  2. cdndog

    cdndog Adventurer

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    Does that mean your shop will be finished? I haven't been over at GG for a while.
  3. sakurama

    sakurama on an endless build

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    It's getting pretty close. Finished is not really a word I use on any of my projects (obviously) but I spent the last week running air, cleaning and trying to put things away. I need to get the machines leveled but, yeah, it's getting close. Now I just need a bike to put in it.

    Gregor
  4. tinwelp

    tinwelp Professional Idiot

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    Hey Pete,
    point me at this please?

    This winter has seen the partial completion of just that on my bike: FCR 39s, a proper throttle linkage, a single set of push-pull throttle cables on the front carb with the mounting re-angled, all to allow a single CPR sausage-filter on its flat base (the "dome" type filter being necessary because I've the 950SM with less space under the tank than an ADV). No pictures yet as it's not finished...

    Interestingly, whilst fiddling with my chokes at the beginning of the winter (I made an external plumber's nightmare, if you remember) I discovered they weren't really necessary once I'd perfected my idle mixture! Their only real use was a fast idle facility! It hasn't been particularly cold this year mind, and the winter's well finished now, but after that discovery I never failed to start without the choke each and every time. Maybe next year I'll make some more progress???

    Cheers... Paul
  5. Pete640

    Pete640 Long timer

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    It was on another forum. CPR to supply the filters and Chris was to design/manufacture a baseplate to suit the velocity stacks/intakes

    I was in holidays when I read it but for the life of me can't find it now. Trust me. It's true!!! And did I read about a hybrid elec 2WD ADV bike that has real time AWD, unobtanium suspension and 200 kw at the treads from 0 rpm. Oh and it gets 1.9 lt/100 km. coming to a dealer near you the 2nd half of the year
  6. ADVill

    ADVill Been here awhile

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    Can someone explain "Mission Creep" to me?
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    kamanya Andrew to most

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    Mission creep =

    Popping into the local for a beer on a Tuesday because rush hour traffic is hectic and then leaving at 4am, trashed with a new girlfriend, tattoo, a puppy (the barman was selling) and a no more credit on your card.
  9. Roadracer_Al

    Roadracer_Al louder, louder, louder!

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    Mission Creep = "Hey, while I'm in here, I ought to fix...."
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    Slider_Over Hooligan

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    Yes, still waiting as patient as I can for any info on the choke solution for the FCR kit with the CPR filter Chris was working on. I know the chokes got put on hold for a bit and then there was news of the CPR filter with the velocity stacks for the 950SM....

    From reading some, maybe the chokes are not really needed or could be sorted out later. The filter/velocity stack solution is what I really would like since the K&N's will not fit on the SM....darn.

    I would really love to know if there has been any progress on this front...:ear
  11. Slider_Over

    Slider_Over Hooligan

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    Interesting to hear about the chokes...maybe they are not needed as you say. I assume that would apply to the 41's as well? I keep flip flopping between the 39's and 41's....depends on who you talk to.

    I always like to hear real world experiences, not just dyno numbers. Any comparisons anyone has would be great to know.
  12. tinwelp

    tinwelp Professional Idiot

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    Slider,
    the K&Ns without Chris' velocity stacks fit the SM without problems. The larger filters needed for the velocity stacks can be made to fit the SM with a little 'reshaping' (the top of rear filter needs squishing down a bit). Far from a good solution though, hence my drive towards the CPR.

    39 vs. 41? I thought buried in this thread somewhere was exactly that. Maybe I'm wrong. If I were to do this again I'd probably go for the 41s. Jetted well, I'm getting very good fuel economy on the 39s (at least 20% better than the OE carbs, and they were well set up too), and you could ALWAYS do with a little more power, don't you think? Not that the 39s aren't HUGE fun... just the 41s could be better still.

    As for the chokes, there are so many environmental and subjective factors contributing to good starting, who knows if the 41s will respond the same with spot-on pilot jetting. In principal, yes. However, I'll still be striving to get my chokes working well eventually as a back-up is a very good thing to have if you suddenly find yourself camping in the mountains and wake up to snow! They just slipped down the list of importance for the moment. The sun is shining and the temperatures are conducive to riding not tinkering, so it's time to get the filters sorted out, then go out to play. Chokes will be back on the to-do list at the end of the year.

    Cheers... Paul
  13. ADVill

    ADVill Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the mission creep definitions. I'm around a LOT of hobbies that could entail that and yet have never heard that terminology.
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    beechum1 Dandole Gas al Burro

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    Or it could be

    Mission:Creep. That's where you go out and intentional try to make young women feel uncomfortable and scared by your presence, usually while staring blankly at their boobs and drooling.
  15. sakurama

    sakurama on an endless build

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    Hey, how did I not get pinged about those last responses? Man, I got unsubscribed from my own thread? I know I lost control over it about a year ago but I was at least hoping I could still keep up with it. No respect... :huh

    Yeah, Mission Creep is something my shopmates and I were famous for when working on bikes. My boxer was mission creep as we really only wanted to put in some side braces on the frame. Of course once the frame was stripped the braces needed to be bent to clear the carbs, if you bent the braces then you need to reinforce them. If you reinforce them you could brace the whole thing and if you do that you've exposed weakness' in the head stock and swingarm pivot so they should braced. If they're braced the lower frame rails are really pointless...

    You see how it works? In this thread I decided to powdercoat my swingarm black and now, three years later, I have a 990 SMR with AWD. The sad part is that I really enjoy it. It's like going for an afternoon ride and coming back two weeks and 4000 miles later with this amazing trip under your belt.

    As for the carbs. I don't know what to tell you. Supposedly my bike is finished and Chris has mentioned he's moving onto other projects but I know as much as you. I'm headed back to NYC for work and meetings in the next few weeks so I am taking an extra day or two to check out the progress and hopefully get the bike done.

    My suspicion on the chokes is that it's related to float level and that it will take some tedious fettling with levels and jets to get it working but that the engineering is sound. I won't have time to test that and I don't know if Chris will either.

    I do know that I'm planning to ride the bike out to Denver this May/June and that Woody's will be lacing me up a new AWD 21" hub and holding those wheels for me. Tommy, Gino and I will ride out together and pick up our wheels at Woody's (Thanks Zach!) and switch to dirt hoops and knobs. There we'll meet up with Clipper, Zach on Woody's 1200GS with 21 front hoop and Neduro on whatever bike he feels is appropriate to slum with us on. From there we'll all set off to do a few mountain passes, dirt roads and whatever. We'll drink lots of beer at night and laugh at Gino because, well, if you've met you know.

    From there whomever wants to join me can ride to Portland via dirt roads. It's a trip I've been dreaming of for a long time and I'm very excited.

    Gregor

    PS - Ned, sorry about the late email - my gmail is acting up and never sent my response until today. :cry Look forward to riding with you again!
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    MortimerSickle Semi-Adventurer

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    Will you be bringing your masterpiece to the Hells Canyon gig? (June 19-22)

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  17. sakurama

    sakurama on an endless build

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    Holy cow! How can I live in paradise and not have ridden in it yet? Oh, right, no running motorcycle.

    Now that I know about it I can try to make that a goal but it might be tight. I guess it depends.

    G
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    Hey Gregor can you give chris a boot up the arse when you see him please.
  20. sakurama

    sakurama on an endless build

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    My pleasure!

    I was told to expect something tonight on here...

    Oh, Chris...

    Gregor