My Blackbird & Review

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Johnny KLR, Mar 8, 2006.

  1. Ron In Buffalo

    Ron In Buffalo Adventurer

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    Nice thread=== I bought my BB May of this year. This is most fun I have had in years with my clothes. I am 6'1" about 220 lbs & 54 yrs old. I found the ergo a lil' cramp. But in July I put on LSL bars and peg lowering kit and it fits like a glove. I have done a cple of 600 miles days and I have no problems. So far this yr I have put on over 4500 miles on it. This bike is one of the best bargains if you are looking for a sport/touring bike. Emphasis on Sport. If you havn't ridden one you wouldn't understand what a Rush it is to flogg one of these machine and on the other hand it is a docile and fun mike to ride touring. Ron
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  2. roadburner

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    Couple things I would like to add. I ride a 2002 blackbird. The stock tire size on the rear is a 180, not a 190 as indicated earlier. My experience has been if you run super sticky tires, don't expect much rear tire life. I got around 2000 miles out of the last rear and it wouldn't pass inspection. Currently running Pirelli Angel ST's and will be thrilled if I get 5,000 miles out of them. I ordered the heavyweight rear tire, so we'll see how it goes. Currently have about 500 miles on these Pirelli's and no problems to report.

    As far as comfort goes, it's not a pure sportbike so you do sit up a little, but not much. The bars on a VFR are higher, and a common mod is to add VFR bars or helibars. The pegs are also high. I'm 6'2" and in decent shape and after about 100 miles, I need a break. My hips tend to cramp from the high pegs. The stock seat is pretty comfortable. I never get numb butt, nor does my wife when she rides on the back. My wrists never hurt, but sometimes I'll get neck pain on really long rides.

    Overall, it's a very nice machine, but the power is definitely overkill. There are not many roads around here in southwestern Pennsylvania where you can open it up. You just run out of road really fast. It's so smooth that you often don't realize how fast you are going. The power must be respected because you can easily break the rear tire loose. At 7k rpms, the bike really goes ape. I usually don't run the revs that high anyway, as there is plenty of power down low in any gear.

    I've only done 1 modification which was adding heavy racetech springs to the front. I did this because I'm 220 lbs., and I ride 2 up as often as I can. Asfar as 2 up goes, it's really a nice ride. My wife is small, so maybe that helps, but the bike is rock solid stable.

    The linked brakes work really nicely. I liked them the first time I rode it. The front end never dives. I have read many complaints about not being able to make proper brake adjustments mid-corner, but I haven't run into this problem. I try to set entry speed correctly before turning and limit corrections. I have had to make a few emergency corrrections in corners before (due to animals, debris, etc.) and did not have any problems.

    As far as fuel consumption goes, I average around 39-40mpg.

    Overall it's the best bike I have ever ridden. It strikes a decent balance between comfort and sport, although it leans more toward sport. What I like best is its smoothness and the intoxicating acceleration.

    I wouldn't recomend it to anyone with little to no riding experience, or to someone who has never owned a sport bike. It's just too fast and heavy.
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  3. PalePhase

    PalePhase Humour Noir

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    I concluded the same thing a couple of weeks ago and abandoned my search for a Blackbird. It only took about 10 seconds or so on one before I realized I needed an intermediate step before taking on anything in the XX's class. That was a sad moment for me, especially because it's the only Japanese bike that has ever made me lust for it. :cry I "settled" for a VFR but I can already see that it was a wise decision.
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  4. Kelly_O

    Kelly_O Been here awhile

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    I rode an '02 VFR for a few years and considered moving up to the XX. One came up for sale locally and we went and had a look. I was very surprised at how much it felt like the VFR. The wife got on the back for a test fit and she agreed. I still look at local CL ads for Blackbirds. Maybe someday...
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  5. roadburner

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    I don't think you settled at all. The VFR is a really nice motorcyle. In fact, that was the bike I wanted in the first place. I had a Super Hawk, and I wanted another Honda with a bigger seat for better 2 up riding.

    I had a deal all lined up on a brand new (left over) red white and blue VFR, when I found a used low mileage blackbird. The difference in cost was what made me get the XX.

    Nothing wrong with the VFR. And it sounds really cool.
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  6. jfurf

    jfurf Been here awhile

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  7. PalePhase

    PalePhase Humour Noir

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    That's neither here nor there
    Believe me, the VFR is the better bike for me, and I seriously doubt I will ever be a good enough rider to need another machine. Want, maybe, but not need. :clap For me, the VFR is probably as close to perfect as a bike can get.

    Got me over my desire for Sprint ST, too. :deal

    :lol3

    Enjoy that 'Bird, Roadburner! :thumb
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  8. Crow

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  9. Crow

    Crow Corvid

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    I went riding with some friends this past weekend, and exchanged rides with two of them. One, a rider of an Aprilia Futura (I had ridden this motorcycle once before, and among the many other bikes he's owned are a BMW K1200RS and a Kawasaki ZX-11). The other, a rider of a Honda Superhawk (I had not ridden this motorcycle before, and among the many other bikes he's owned are Ducati's ST4 and 748 - both of which I've ridden - and a Honda VFR700). Their reaction to the XX? I'll paraphrase some comments.

    "That thing feels like it was made by NASA."

    "That's not an internal combustion engine. There's no internal combusting going on there. That feels like a nuclear engine. The bike hums."

    "I could have a lot of fun on that...and get into a lot of trouble, because it's so smooth and powerful."
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  10. Saso

    Saso chronically restless

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    A friend who rode my XX said afterward that the world felt much smaller while he was riding it.
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  11. Cat0020

    Cat0020 El cheapo

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    Even smaller when you fly the real Blackbird, you could arrive at your destination before the time you departed, it seems to bend time continuum. :lol3
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  12. Slowphil

    Slowphil REALLY Gnarly Adventurer

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    time to bump this thread up again. Bought myself a 97 the other day, cleaning polishing and new rear tire. Had an 03 before and sold it, stupidist move on a motorcycle I ever made. I love this bike, for smooth all day long distance cruising it can't be beat, used to spend 12 to 14 hrs a day in the saddle with no problems and for the occasional time you open it up it sure makes your heart beat faster with it's smooth seamless power. I still love it and am now 66 years of age.
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  13. rubcicube

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    Yes indeed. Bought mine new in 2002. Now has 95,000 miles and runs as new. Great bike. It's a keeper.
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  14. Bbasso

    Bbasso my name is Rob

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    Somehow I've missed this thread...
    But great reading.

    I bought my 02 XX on June 25 2013 and already have 8,000 miles on her.

    My best mpg have been 52 on a 2200 mile round trip in 14 days. I loved every moment on this bike.

    I bought this because selling my 02 XR650L a few years back was a mistake. While I did two 1500 mile trips on that the lack of mpg, speed, fairings and luggage bothered me.
    The XX has been on my mind since they came out and now I couldn't be happier owing one.

    I don't think I'll be selling it any time soon... even though I have add when it comes to vehicles.
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  15. Colorado_Rider

    Colorado_Rider Banned

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    I have a different take on the XX if anyone is interested in one of these.

    I put 60K on my '02 and loved every single second of it AFTER I upgraded the suspension, seat, windscreen etc... Then after 11 great years I sold it an never looked back. I've owned an FJR AE and now a 919, both of which I like more than the XX. Strange how much I loved it at the time and it was the perfect bike for me but now that it's gone I'm so glad I sold it to experience other bikes.

    So, basically it's the only keeper I'll ever own that I wish I hadn't kept for so long if that makes any sense whatsoever. ANYONE looking at a sub 4K ST mount should be looking at nothing else and there are a lot of nice ones out there with low miles. Just remember it needs lots of mods to live up to it's full potential, but I guess you could say that about any bike. My Dad actually had one first and pretty much felt the exact same way except only had his for 5 years.

    [​IMG]
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  16. Blakebird

    Blakebird r-u-n-n-o-f-t

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    a good rider can get lots out of a Blackbird without changing a thing.
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  17. Colorado_Rider

    Colorado_Rider Banned

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    What gave you the good idea I'm a good rider? And how would you know anyway you never touched the suspension.
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  18. smack doogle

    smack doogle Been here awhile

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    I'm looking at one locally with around 40000 miles for cheap (less than 2K). Owner says it has new tires, chain, sprockets and corbin gunfighter. No issues, clean title.

    I go to look at it on Thursday. I'm bringing the voltmeter to check the R/R but is there anything else on these beasts that are prone to premature wear?

    I don't need another bike but I think I should jump on this.
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  19. beeper

    beeper Badger tickler

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    For that price, I'd buy it in a heartbeat! :deal

    From the research I've done on these they seem to be reliable and run a long, long time. If it looks like it was taken care off......Buy it. :wink:
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  20. mousitsas

    mousitsas Long timer

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    Extremely reliable bike. Only weak points are the R/R (voltmeter a good idea!), the generator coils and the cam chain tensioner. For the last one pay attention to the typical noise of a bad tensioner.