My KTM 1190 Breaking Me In

Discussion in 'Face Plant' started by kag, Jan 20, 2014.

  1. kag

    kag Wander Lust

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    Well was putting some miles on my new 1190 downing some gravel road riding and came up to an area that looked like just minor surface mud and left over snow on this very shady part of the dirt road, but the mud was much deep and slick as snot. Got it whoa'd up quite a bit but the ass end completely came out from under me. I knew I was going down and tried to kick away from the bike but it happened too quick.

    My right foot was pinned under the bike and a very un-natural ankle. I used my left foot to push the bike just enough to free my foot. I knew instantly my ankle was broken. I rolled up on my side and did a quick check of myself and the foot and ankle was the only thing hurting badly. I got up and hopped a little around on the left foot looking around. Well out in a very rural area. I could call the wife and guide her in but then what to do about my bike. SO...I hopped over to it....still running. Hit the kill switch and then grabbed the bars and tried to lift it up using my good foot. Not working. I then planted my right foot with the broken ankle and used both and lift the bike up. I cussed some as it hurt like hell but the bike was up.

    Now I had to get it through the mud area to the dry dirt. So I started the bike and feathered the clutch and hopped on the left foot, creeping it forward 6 inches at a time, sometimes less. I eventually got it up there to the dry dirt and killed it. Then carefully made my way around to the left side to put the side stand down. Too soft to support the bike so I had to hop and walk it up farther. Finally to an area that would support the bikes weight. So I then of course did the natural thing and took a couple of pictures.

    I then through my leg over the bike and started it. Rode to a little country gas station as I was almost out of fuel. Hopped around there and put fuel in and rode to the nearest ER about 40 miles away.

    Just got my new pair of Forma Adventure boots and to be completely honest if I had been wearing my old boots I would have had an open fracture and even more leg/foot damage.

    Distal Tibula Fracture broken in 3 places with ligament tears. Waiting to see the ortho surgeon tomorrow.

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  2. DougFromKentucky

    DougFromKentucky Just a good 'ole boy

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    Ouch! You are one tough dude. Not sure if I could have done that. Hope the best for you with the surgeons.
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  3. Littlepeter

    Littlepeter Been here awhile

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    Sorry about your injury. I am recovering from a similar incident that happened back in October. The damaged was to my right mid foot (Lisfranc injury). I had to ride out too but was lucky to have some friends to help lift the bike to get me rolling. Surgery including plates, screws and external pins. Over two months of total non weight bearing but I am walking with an aircast now. So much damage for such a little drop.
    I hope your surgery and recovery goes well and that your wife is as supportive and understanding as mine has been.

    Peter
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  4. kag

    kag Wander Lust

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    Thank you

    Glad it was not my foot except all the torn ligaments in it. But foot injuries take a long time to heal and hope your does heal well.

    Not sure its tough or there really was no way I was calling my wife as she raised hell about me getting this bike. Hmmmm....nope not going to admit it. Plus there was no way she would have been able to get the bike out....I think at that point I was just pissed at myself.

    Just dumb ass decision making ....30+ years riding, first true injury. But I always said its not "if" but "when".....

    I had an Icon Helmet, First Gear Kilaminjaro jacket, Codura armored pants, and armored gloves on also.

    Hoping like hell it heals well, we will see. I will admit the Forma boots really did save me from something far worse. The other boots I just sold, Gaerne Balanced Oils are great boots but do not have the protection these do.....IMO. Even the wife said the new boots was a good decision.....I sense opportunity for better gear with less resistance :evil

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    After I got it up and up the hill out of the mud. Its in good shape.....it had me to break its fall. Need better tires to do this. Right pannier has a piece of the plastic mounting latch broken. The other side is the side the went down and is covered in mud


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  5. TwilightZone

    TwilightZone Long timer

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    >"Need better tires to do this."

    Yup. Geeze... your tires had no tread exposed in the mud.
    Pretty heavy bike too.
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  6. COXR650L

    COXR650L Long timer

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    Sorry about the injury, but good on you for taking care of yourself and getting out under your own power. :deal:wink:
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  7. Little Bike

    Little Bike Air/Clutz Sue

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    That sucks. Hope you heal up quick.
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  8. NJ-Brett

    NJ-Brett Brett

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    I think you need a bigger heavier bike to dirt ride.
    Then maybe set it up with slicks and enter it in motocross events.
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  9. kag

    kag Wander Lust

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    That's next week Captain
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  10. bigbadandugly

    bigbadandugly Been here awhile

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    Yeah, you already had two strikes against you riding through that muck with those tires. I imagine it was quite squirrelly going through there.

    Nice boots. I have the Balanced Oileds and like them a lot, but I agree they lack some protective ability compared to some other offerings. I like the Forma boots, though.

    I find it amazing that NJ-Brett can achieve an average of over four posts a day since he joined advrider.com over three years ago. Unfortunately I can only assume from his insulting post above that most are similarly insulting and low value posts. He should change his handle to NJ-Brett-with-a-small-penis.
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  11. kag

    kag Wander Lust

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    Roger that

    I know I fucked up. The road and trails were actually really firm ....of course except the area that bit my ass as it was slick as snot. The main reason I wanted to post this all up was to re-enforce what i already knew and should of listened too.....a momentary lap in solid judgement can be costly. Plus good gear prevents event worse injuries when we ( I ) fail to use due diligence.
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  12. Night Falcon

    Night Falcon Adventure NZL

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    I had a similar crash 5 years ago on my 990, I was wearing Forma boots which folded up pretty easily unfortunately for me. I now ride with Alpinestars Tech 10's which are mega strong.

    Hope your ankle heals up quickly and your back on that awesome bike real soon :D
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  13. RollingJ

    RollingJ The mud in your eye

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    I'm glad you made it out, that shows some balls.

    A knob or two would have obviously helped out a bunch, but for some reason not all tires have them.

    It looks like you were able to spot that from a decent distance, so I have to ask a few questions...

    Were you over-riding your sight line or did you just misjudge the surface?

    Would it have been better to lighten the front end and take that under acceleration?

    Would you like fries with that shake?



    Edit: Did you ride home from the ER? I would have shut up, for sure if you had.:super
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  14. UngaWunga

    UngaWunga Mosquito bait

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    post the xrays!
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  15. bigbadandugly

    bigbadandugly Been here awhile

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    Would look pretty cool riding down the street with a fresh cast on the right leg and mud all over the bike. And when he gets home:

    Wife: How was your ride, Hon?

    Kag: Great! It was a beautiful day to go for a ride.

    Wife: OMG! What's that on your right leg?

    Kag: Oh, nothing. I just needed a little more support on my right leg because the brake pedal is still a little stiff from being a new bike.

    Wife: Oh, OK.
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  16. NJ-Brett

    NJ-Brett Brett

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    I think we all do stupid stuff from time to time, and it hurts!

    There is a trend to ride big heavy bikes off road and broken bones.

    I am big on using the wrong tool for the job, but after getting out of the hospital I will not try and ride a big heavy bike in the dirt anymore.
    Even with good tires on it!

    I rode out after every crash until the last one when I could not lift the bike.
    Smashed knee, broken toe, broken spine, broken ankle, and I rode home all those times.

    Not riding home was not an option, nor was it the last time, but I was lucky someone found me and got me out.

    Pre cell phone days, or no signal now, solo dirt riding demands you get yourself out.

    Heal fast!





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  17. NJ-Brett

    NJ-Brett Brett

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    Lighten up dude.
    We all do stupid things on bikes, and you have to take the heat for it here.

    Some of us at least have been in the same situation, sometimes quite a few times.

    If KAG had made it, we would have said he has balls to ride slick dirt on an overloaded bike with street tires on it.
    As it is we say he has balls for riding out and we hope he heals up well.

    Was it smart? Not really.






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  18. Bad_Weather

    Bad_Weather Adventurer

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    It's not if we will crash but when !
    We ride these damn machines because they are dangerous which = fun,
    The best we can do is dress for the crash not the ride.
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  19. kag

    kag Wander Lust

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    Actually......yes.

    I was not going to leave my bike at the ER....no telling when I would of been able to get it plus as you look around the waiting room......hmmmm, some if these folks in there are "professionals" in rather unlawful activities. Bike could of disappeared quick if left for days.

    So I refused pain meds while there because I knew I was going to ride it home. I gimped out on crutches to the bike, sat on the curb and had the wife un-splint me.....and help me stuff my swollen foot/broken ankle into the boot. Got on the bike and rode it home with her following in the truck. She helped get the boot back off (like to killed me) and as she is a Registered Nurse she re-splinted me....then I took percocets and drank beer. To make matter worse the ER was the one she use to work in.


    True story


    The question about the why it happened....the road surface did not look that slick....obviously I made a couple of bad decisions in this ordeal. It is what it is.......

    I saw the surgeon and he said 'Plate", I said cast it and lets see. Currently wearing a "Bulky Jones" till the swelling goes down then we will see about it next Tuesday if I am going to have to have surgery or not as the Xray report also says Fibula stress fracture in addition to the Distal Tibula being dicked up.

    The films were digital Xrays but I plan to get hard copies to remind me not to be a dumb ass.


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  20. pistole

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    Sorry to hear about your injury. Locally , we get alot of muddy trails like in your picture where you had crashed.

    Like you , we take heavy machinery into areas like that with compromised tires.

    Maybe you don't need to hear this now , but I will put this out for anyone else trying to learn muddy off roading with big (inappropriate) bikes :

    (a) momentum is , to a certain extent , your friend,

    (b) head up and look at where you want to end up. Check down only to determine generally which path you're going to take and then just press on. Look at your front tire at your peril,

    (c) sit down. Don't stand up. Yeah yeah , I know. Standing up is the standard , etc , but in mud , how fast you can get a foot down to dab the bike back up will be difference between an "oh shit I almost lost it" to a crash.

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    Hope you heal up fast and as mentioned above , you might have more fun with a small bike with appropriate tires. But hey , where's the fun in that ?

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