My New Chinese Big Ruckus clone thread...

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by deezildennis, Jul 27, 2011.

  1. ronnath

    ronnath Long timer

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    Nay, DZD, been following since you first posted.

    I've always had a hard-on for the original BR but they're so fuggin rare i gave up ever finding one without spending my kid's inheritance.

    have stayed with this thread in the hope there may be an alternative.

    please keep the thread going.
  2. drseventies

    drseventies n00b

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    Dennis, you keep talking about the poor reception of your thread. I, for one, have found it invaluable. I'm broke and can't seem to keep my Pontiac running for more than a couple months at a time so I'm going to buy a Chuck (Chinese Ruck'... get it?) for primary transportation.

    Thank you very much for the updates. I wouldn't have taken the plunge otherwise.
  3. CaseyJones

    CaseyJones Ridin' that train

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    If I can jump in here...

    There are plenty of good reasons to buy a RowdyRuck, or any other Chinese scoot.

    Needing reliable transportation, is not, repeat NOT one of them.

    I'm serious. As serious as a heart attack. You can get a used Burgman or Honda for just a little more than a new Znen; and what you get is - unless it's been beaten to scrap - something more reliable; something you can get parts and service data for.

    Once you have the transportation thingy beat...you can branch out. But you never know when one of those Chinese things are going to fail; or what it will be.

    I have two. I know. One, not the RowdyRuck, had a failure under warranty. It took NINE MONTHS to get the right parts and service data; it was so bad the shop (an honest dealer) gave up his franchise on that line.

    You don't need that. A Chinese scoot is for playing with.
  4. Gigglingoth

    Gigglingoth Adventurer

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    Well, Im the type of person that does a ton of research before purchasing anything. Most of the Rowdy owners I've been lucky enough to have contact with have more praise than complaints about this scooter. That, for me, speaks volumes. All use it as a daily ride for one reason or another. Mine, I'm happy to say, has now been paid off and i am just waiting to hear when i can pick it up. Everyone has or has heard of horror stories with EVERY make and model of scooter not just Chinese made ones. I can appreciate everyones opinions but until you own that specific bike......
    Dennis's posts have helped in a massive way when it comes to the purchase of my Rowdy

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  5. deezildennis

    deezildennis Its a what?

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    After 2 years of daily riding warm or cold ....Im starting to play with mine

    I will say is my Dealer fixed mine with parts he had in stock and then SSR replaced them. He said the parts came in from SSR in under a week. He still sells SSRs because of the fast turn around on parts and the decent quality of the actual scooters. When I ordered my replacement seat through him from ssr it came in in under a week. same for my spare Fuel pump, cdi, air filter....

    I was very close to ordering a znen 250 L through him after my Helix started giving me fits.

    Throughout this whole thread I have stressed that if you get a Chinese Scooter or motorcycle you really need to purchase it from a brick and mortar dealer that can service and supply parts for it.

    If you fall for the $1000 drop ship China scoot you are in for a big surprise.

    Mine is a ZNEN Ruckus clone. There are a few different Chinese manufactures making these so potential buyers need to remember that.
    SSR Supplies ZNEN manufactured BigRuckus clones.
  6. CaseyJones

    CaseyJones Ridin' that train

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    I think Znen is the only manufacturer. There's a number of retailers/middlemen who brand them; but it all seems to come down to Znen. And they all have the same gy-6 150 in there.

    I haven't had any trouble with the Rowdy, either...ridden about 1200 miles. No, I take that back...it got manhandled when I wasn't around, long story, and yes, my fault...but I had the steering locked and it had to be moved.

    When I got to it...the kick starter return spring was broken. How'd that happen? I have no clue; I don't think it was dumped in the shuffle.

    Thing of it is, though...I used that kick-starter a LOT; because the charger on the Rowdy was marginal. If it didn't start right up, the battery wouldn't do it. I went through two batteries before giving up, and starting it cold with the kick.

    Now...I have to rip into it. And I don't have a shop. File it away in the job jar...the Rowdy won't see much action this busy summer.
  7. deezildennis

    deezildennis Its a what?

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    I have a decent little charger I got 30 years ago from my parents for a Dirt bike I had...still have.. I got a quick disconnect wired in straight to the battery. When I can the Rowdy is plugged into it and it keeps it maintained.

    I cant say I have ever had any issues with the charging system other than the Junk China Battery shooting craps. I've rode over a Hundred miles before in the dark dodging dear and the charging system kept up. But I'm sure it would be taxed with a junk battery.
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    Dennis
    great thread. :clap
    thanks
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  10. deezildennis

    deezildennis Its a what?

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    Why would I do that?
  11. Gigglingoth

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    Your info has been invaluable to me. I now have my amazing Rowdy and 300 miles later I am absolutely in love. I did have to replace the flasher relay (super easy and cheap) but am also replacing the exhaust-I have a bad baffle. Instead of making a stink about something I planned to eventually replace anyway, I just bought a new ebay special. It's supposed to be here today. I would never have known the correct one to purchase without your help. Thanks again:clap
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    tortoise2 Been here awhile

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  13. deezildennis

    deezildennis Its a what?

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    Good luck with your Rowdy. Id still ask the dealer to replace the muffler it is rattling. You may want to sell the bike later with a original exhaust.

    Also keep in mind my previously stated modification I had to do to the header pipe in order to make it fit right. This requires cutting it and rewelding the header pipe near the muffler flange.

    I can get a better pic of the bracket I made to support the exhaust if you need it.
  14. deezildennis

    deezildennis Its a what?

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    Also start running something to protect against the effects of ethanol if they are using it in your area. The ethanol caused some issues with the carb on my helix. I run it in all the bikes I have now.

    And get the factory oil out of it if you haven't already. I'm running fleet oil in mine and have been for a while.
  15. Birdmove

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    Do these come with an ice-maker? Or its add on?
  17. deezildennis

    deezildennis Its a what?

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    Yes.
  18. deezildennis

    deezildennis Its a what?

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    I have something similar. It's a Lifan LF110gy-3 with drum brakes. The 125cc ct70 clones werent out yet when I bought mine. I rode mine for about 6 months with the 110 and then strapped a iron bore 140cc Lifan with all up gears on it. It has a few other goodies on it. I'm really too fat to ride it all the time but it'll run 55mph all day long.

    The dealer that ordered this Rowdy for me started bringing the ssr ct clones in. He seems to think they are ok. The Build quality looked better than my Lifan Built ct70 clone. I Say get one if you like it..

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  19. Birdmove

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    Thanks for the comments on the clone. I'm about 5'9" and 190. That's a bit heavy for me-I should be about 175-180. I'm retired, so money is a big factor.
  20. deezildennis

    deezildennis Its a what?

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    You'll be alright. I road My Dealers first one he ordered and it felt much more solid than mine.

    Im 5'9" but 240#s so I am taxing mine a bit. It has handled it for a few years though. I changed that seat out though for a custom one with better padding and white vinyl.