My Piaggio Velofax / Vespino

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  1. Forde

    Forde Been here awhile

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    Hi

    Wanted to show my latest purchase,

    Saw this on gumtree yesterday and went to pick it up this morning. Never seen one before so still researching, but its a Piaggio Velofax which is called vespino in some countries e.g. italy but was called velofax in france and other countries. Only sold on mainland/continental europe and never in uk or ireland. Dont think ill ever see another in northern ireland anyway

    Mine is from france. The guy i got it from, his father in law bought it new in paris, brought it home, got it uk registered and gave it to him as a present but he never rode it.

    I think its a 1998 need to confirm later.

    It has 200 miles on it, perfect condition.

    Runs great i was riding it about but the only little problem is it wont idle, need to hold the throttle a tiny bit or it just stalls. Probably just need to turn idle speed up. Havent done anything yet literally just home 15 minutes ago.

    Need to find a manual and see where i can get a pipe and tuning parts, trying to find out if it has the same engine as any other piaggios? Would be handy for getting parts, maybe some piaggio experts would know if i posted pics?

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  2. Dabears

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    That's pretty neat! I have never seen one before, I suspect nothing like that has every made it into the US. Is it a 50cc engine?
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  3. elamofo

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    Wow, I can't believe that's 14 years old! It looks like it should be in a showroom!
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  4. Kennon

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    hmm how odd the swingarm on is ont he opposite side to most scooters, iv yet to see a engine like that

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  5. Forde

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    nah they didnt sell them in uk or ireland either it was sold in countries like france and italy where you can ride a 50cc from you are 14 years old. yeah its a 50cc 2 stroke has auto lube and electric start
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  6. Forde

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    yeah, it has 270 miles iirc. basically been sitting in a garage since new.

    think it might actually be 15, i have a feeling its a 97 but wont be sure til i get reg docs through!
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  7. Forde

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    yeah its very odd and weird that the exhaust is on tranny side as well normally opposite sides
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  8. Kennon

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    are there any other piaggio products of that era with a similiar engine if it was the typical left side swinger i would of guessed it was a minarelli unit :/
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    Pretty cool, please explain the folded footpegs and barge boards.
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  10. Forde

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    Well the polini 65cc kit for this bike says it also fits the gilera gsm and h@k which are both chain driven supermoto style bikes so I guess the engine is the same but obviously the transmission side of things is different, neither of those bikes were available here either. Doubt its a mina piaggio/gilera usually have their own engines and minas are usually found in other brands like yamaha aerox:s and stuff. Also never seen a mina with drive on that side
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  11. Chillis

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    A Carb clean or new pilot jet will solve idle issue. Cool bike.
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    pretty effing cool.
    I've never heard of that one before and it's definitely a keeper!
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    gogogordy Long timer

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    Seafoam, Marvel Mystery Oil, or something of that type might be easier and just as effective.
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  14. Forde

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    thanks for the comments guys, hope to keep you updated soon cos im sourcing a pipe and probably big bore kit and larger carb with pod filter, and probably an adjustable racing clutch if i do that other stuff.

    i didnt think it would be a carb clean issue with the bike only having had 270 miles worth of fuel through it.

    the issue is that when you come to a stop and let go of the throttle, the revs just drop to the point where the bike stalls. so you have to keep a feather light touch on the throttle when stopped just to keep it ticking over. apart from that it starts right up and accellerates and cruises brilliantly.

    just seems like the idle speed is set too low but i dont know how to adjust that, not gonna rip my carb apart and pour stuff in my tank til i figure out how to set idle speed. every vehicle ever has a provision to set that somewhere, just not sure what screw it is on my carb. turned a few screws yesterday with engine running, nothing happened to idle speed, probably ruined my carb settings lol.
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  15. Warney

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    Follow the throttle linkage to the carburetor, there will likely be a spring/pulley at the carburetor with an adjustable screw touching an end stop. Turn in, idle speed goes up, turn out, idle speed drops. BTW I concur on the Seafoam, it is magic in a can. The age of the fuel and how long it sat unused has more to do with carburetor issues than the low miles.
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  16. InlineSkate

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    Kind of shocking to see a 14 year old scooter that technically still needs to have the engine broken in.

    Great find!
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  17. Forde

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    Well guys I adjusted the idle speed and now it really is running like a brand new bike I also messed with the mixture screw basically I turned it in with engine idling until it started making the engine speed up then backed out a little anyone got any idea on base settings its bout 2.5 turns out just now. Also checked the mileage its 219 not 270 but may be even less cos I think the odo reads in km
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  18. Kennon

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    its only from 2006 onwards piaggio bikes started to use there own designs again before that 90's-06 there were always using minarelli engines its true yamaha use those engines since minarelli is a engine subsidiary of theirs but pretty much any scooter 2 stroke use them now all the chinese copies are copies of these units,

    the housing around the engine shows its a aircooled engine so im quite doubtful it would be the same engine as the LC GSM.

    from what i can see on youtube a MK exhaust can go on this Piaggio
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  19. Forde

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    you're right i read it wrong it was the gilera GSA that uses the same bore

    im talking to a supplier i know who specialises in parts for obscure mopeds and he can source me a polini 65cc kit, or 3 different brands of 60cc kit. also metrakit have 2 pipes for it and there is a TRC.

    think im gonna go 65cc polini with a metra kit racing pipe and big carb and filter.
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  20. piaggio velofax

    piaggio velofax n00b

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    i have brought a piaggio velofax so far i have brought a variator and clutch as far as the upgrades go, i would like to get a pipe, bore kit and bigger carb but having problem finiding them?!!
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