My Side Stand Relocater.

Discussion in 'Vendors' started by charlie264, Aug 16, 2011.

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Definite Committed Interest in this bracket?

  1. 950 SE-R

  2. 990, 950 ADV

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  1. Peanuts

    Peanuts Long timer

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    Any news?
    I am interested in the Adv version, but happy to take an SE version and machine out the sumpguard area.
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  2. charlie264

    charlie264 Long timer

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    I was putting the finishing touches to the Adv relocater today along with inmate ACP, nice guy. I should have the first batch of SE plates completed this week, there was a misunderstanding with the engineering company, I asked for a test piece first out of 1mm steel to match, I received a 6mm plate 7 days later, so I am waiting for the first order and then to be milled.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>

    I&#8217;m very happy with the Adv design; it&#8217;s been designed to accommodate the standard Adv and G-IT sump guard, I see no reason why it wouldn&#8217;t match with others sump guards. Many thanks to ACP for his time, a top bloke and for the tea, coffee and use of his Adv S making this all possible, as I said before, I only originally intended to make some for the SE, but due to the interest and PM&#8217;s I&#8217;ve received....<o:p></o:p>

    Hopefully, as things are progressing at a faster pace now, I will be able to get a plate to you this week or next. I&#8217;m keen to get as much feedback as possible.<o:p></o:p>

    It will be 6mm steel, not 8mm, I&#8217;ve steered away from stainless or high tensile, hopefully this will give a point of give with a big off, preventing, limiting damage elsewhere.<o:p></o:p>

    I bent my SE&#8217;s standard side stand pivot plate like a banana in a crash; luckily the case was fine, if it had been made of tensile steel, I&#8217;m not sure I would have been as lucky. The main bolt going through the case, I&#8217;m still undecided whether to use an 8.8 grade bolt or 10.9. 8.8 would have a better chance of failure in a crash, what do you think?<o:p></o:p>
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  3. Aquanout

    Aquanout Hooliganantic

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    Still too close to the case for my liking. I went aft of the foot peg, also made it adjustable.

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  4. zedtours

    zedtours Been here awhile

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    2nd that I'm in surrey. Would not a piece of heavy duty rubber mounted behind the plate act as shock absorber if any bending took place?
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  5. charlie264

    charlie264 Long timer

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    That&#8217;s a good idea, will need testing. Personally I think there is enough flex in the side stand its self, it&#8217;s going to take some real abuse to bend this relocater. The prototype was fitted with ACP's G-IT Sump guard.
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  6. ACP

    ACP Adventurer

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    As with the Black Dog relocator plate, 03 and 04 Adventures will need some modification to the frame >>>

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    Approx 1" square part of the frame needs removing. This took 5 mins with an angle grinder.

    Charlie will be sending me the prototype as soon as it's been fabricated for testing.

    From what I've seen, the final product is going to be better than any other on the market. Charlie has put in a lot of time and effort to make this so, otherwise the endeavour would have been pointless I guess.
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  7. charlie264

    charlie264 Long timer

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    Guys I finally got the SE relocters today, the plate is finished in a twin layer powder coating. The spacer bush is made from marine grade Stainless Steel, it is exactly the same size as the KTM one, and has been made to be directly compatible and interchangeable with the KTM centre stand, if you have one, but it won&#8217;t rust.
    I recommend the SS bush is still used without a centre stand. All the bolts are shouldered and cut to correct length so it&#8217;s just bolt up and go. I have left the M8 long, it can be shortened if needed. <!--?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /--><o:p></o:p>

    THIS IS FOR A STANDARD SE, If you have an aftermarket sump guard that uses the Adv mounting points, I will have the Adv relocaters hopefully next week. Or use washers to space the the plate to the aftermarket sump guard supports.

    If you are interested in one, please go to Vendors.
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=731769


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  8. Brown Dog

    Brown Dog North Georgia Dual Sportr

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    Listen to this Wise Man :nod


    I like your Way of thinking & straitforwardness :thumb

    I've also thought this for many many years :clap

    I cant Stand to see someone mount their bike like a Horse or a KLR rider :hide

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  9. charlie264

    charlie264 Long timer

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    I&#8217;m sorry to those who are interested in the Adv plate, ACP I haven&#8217;t forgotten you. The company making the pates, told me within 7 days, well that was up on Monday, I phoned them and it seems the CAD guy has been ill. Hopefully I will have some indication next week, on the plus side the engineering shop doing the milling are superb and fast, the powder coaters have shut up shop for a week&#8217;s holiday. Did someone once say patience is a virtue? <!--?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /--><o:p></o:p>
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  10. charlie264

    charlie264 Long timer

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    On Tart's SE.

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  11. charlie264

    charlie264 Long timer

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    Guy's the new plates I ordered, well 16 days later and numerous calls, today I went to collect. And they are all 3 mm out on the shark fin bit and holes are the wrong sizes so I rejected the order, the CAD engineer is back this week and he has promised them for me tomorrow. He wasn&#8217;t a happy bunny, fingers crossed for tomorrow.<o:p></o:p>
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  12. Bannisdale

    Bannisdale ....snowing now!

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    I bet you wish you never started this project! :doh

    Keep the faith....we are!
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  13. charlie264

    charlie264 Long timer

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    Thanks man, you’re not wrong. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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  14. mato409

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    Hi Charly, im in for the adventure relocater.
    Im from Argentina, the new "Dakar " land!!
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  15. Terlingua

    Terlingua Terlingua

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    I should have got a patent on this 2 1/2 years a go when I came up with it. Then Kurt at Black Dog screw me over as he seem to do all the guys with new ideals. Oh he feed you a good line and said I'll even make paper work saying this is your ideal. Well good luck with that one. If I was you I would not show a damn thing on here. Evey one else will just F you over.
    I have made some things for the 950 that per dated a lot of things I have seen one here. Ones that later look like some one must have seen what I have done. But that all right, good for them if they can keep that money in their pocket.
    Now I know I well get some of you bad mouthing me. And that fine I don't give a rat ass what you thank. I'm just telling you how it is.
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  16. Bannisdale

    Bannisdale ....snowing now!

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    :zilla
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  17. mousitsas

    mousitsas Long timer

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    Charlie, does your relocator fit an SE with a center stand?
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  18. charlie264

    charlie264 Long timer

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    Yes, the spacer isn’t needed if you have a centre stand. But this is for a standard SE with the standard sump guard, if you have an aftermarket sump guard that uses the Adv mount points, the M8 bolt hole below the centre stand bolt... I will have the Adv plates ready this week that are compatible with the SE and aftermarket sump guard.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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  19. charlie264

    charlie264 Long timer

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    Take it easy on the guy, he’s still selling his own plates.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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  20. KTMforget

    KTMforget Been here awhile

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    I have seen some delusional posts on this forum but this one has to be at the top of my list. I don’t appreciate a completely baseless personal attack on myself or my company. Thanks to our loyal customers, many on ADVRider, our reputation speaks for itself and we will continue to work hard to expand it.

    First of all, I never screwed Terlingua over. I gave him advanced notice that I found a better design and would be phasing his out over time. I did this to try to avoid him holding a bunch of inventory that we were not going to purchase. Not something I had to do, but I felt it was the right thing to do. The new design, created by an engineer in Arizona, was not remotely similar to Terilinqua’s design and shared no common elements with it. The both served the same function – to protect the engine case - but that is where the similarity stopped.

    I spoke to Terilingua on Friday about this and he is convinced the two designs are the same which is ludicrous. His design attaches to the bike in 5 places and still threads into the engine block. Our new design attaches to the bike on two places and completely isolates the engine block. His post was the first I had heard that he was unhappy with us and that he thought we copied his design. Anyone can look at the two products and see they are very different.

    His statement of “screwing over all the guys with the new ideas” is complete fiction. We pay a royalty to the designer of the new side stand relocation kit design. We have this type of arrangement with several people who have come up with excellent product ideas and it works out great for everyone. They don’t have to bother producing or carrying inventory, we can use our local resources to have the products made in the U.S.A. on our timetable to our standards and the designer just cashes their quarterly checks. Easy.

    My apologies for the highjack, but I felt this blatant, false attack merited a response, as delusional as the post was.

    Now, back to your regularly schedule program….
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