My Ural (Mis?)Adventure, so far.......

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by jwaller, Aug 13, 2015.

  1. jwaller

    jwaller Been here awhile

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    Fresh oils, put a new tire up front so my bike’s now riding on relatively new tires all around, new brake pads, new spark plugs,....., new speedometer and odometer. The valves, surprisingly, were all within spec. I hosted a maintenance day at my home yesterday. Bad weather kept the fair weather riders away. Still was happy to host the event and must thank Kent Silk for helping me out with getting a new tire up front and for fixing my dragging front brake. I also learned from Kent how to get any wheel off the ground with no more than the center stand and a 15 inch 2 X 4.
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    Mileage at this oil change for my records [​IMG]
  2. Bar None

    Bar None Old School Dude

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    ^^^^^
    Still in break in! :lol3
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  3. jwaller

    jwaller Been here awhile

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    Sometimes the kickstarter kicks back [​IMG]


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  4. TurTal

    TurTal Been here awhile

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    You must have the older model



    Mine has a little button you can push






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  5. jwaller

    jwaller Been here awhile

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    That's the easy way.

    If I wasn't a glutton for punishment, would I have bought a Ural?
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  6. TurTal

    TurTal Been here awhile

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    Touche'
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  7. DavePave

    DavePave Been here awhile

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    A very appropriate one-liner TurTal. Perhaps you should update your image from batting practice to "The real turtle." Touche' Turtle, that is.

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  8. mtrdrms

    mtrdrms Been here awhile

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    Man, if I wasn't 3000 miles away, I would've been at the maintenance day!
  9. jwaller

    jwaller Been here awhile

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    Head gasket blown?

  10. windmill

    windmill Long timer

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    Not blown, if it was you wouldn't need to ask, it would be obvious.
    A little weeping from the head gaskets was normal. A leak in that location is typically a symptom of a cylinder head in need of torquing, and minor leak can be compounded by a lot of high RPM running in lower gears.
    The head gaskets were upgraded last year, so if torquing the cylinder bolts doesn't take care of it you can swap them out for the new ones, or ignore it if it's not dripping or splattering.
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  11. jwaller

    jwaller Been here awhile

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    Thanks. I need a new torque wrench I can trust. I think the one I got from Harbor Freight isn't working any more. I didn't torque down until it clicked because I had already aped down on it and the torque wrench hadn't clicked so I figured my torque wrench wasn't working any more. I'll try to borrow a better torque wrench and check it out again. If I still have the weeping oil, I'll order a new head gasket and swap it out at some point.
  12. trumpet

    trumpet Group W Bench

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    So is it a keeper??
  13. jwaller

    jwaller Been here awhile

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    Well, I tried to sell it and no one bit, so yeah, I guess so. By default.
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  14. jwaller

    jwaller Been here awhile

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    Another day, another misadventure. But it ended up alright. And it wasn't the Ural's fault in the first place.

    I was going to ride about 200 miles from my home in New Braunfels, TX to the Ural dealership in Houston for a Ural Day they were hosting. I must admit that yesterday I noted that something was off in the shifting of my bike. I checked the transmission oil level and it was good to go and didn't have that much mileage. So this morning, I headed out. Good thing I needed gas early. I stopped at a gas station 7 miles from home. I realized when pulling in the clutch, the engine wasn't fully disengaging. I noticed this as I was pulling back out of the gas station. So, I decided to stop at the intersection up ahead and take a look at the clutch cable. I did that, about 10 miles from home. I saw that the cable was all frayed at the handlebar end. I decided to head back home. I start the bike back up, hop on, and pull the clutch to put it in first gear and

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    *SNAP* goes the clutch cable.


    I thought maybe if I could get the rpms just right, maybe I could just drop it into gear without the clutch and then try to do clutchless shifting home, being extra careful at the couple stop signs I'd have to deal with. No dice. All I managed to do was move a few feet and leave some skid marks on the ground.


    When my wife came on over to pick me up, I took a gamble and drove to Martindale, TX, which is close by, because I know there's a guy who owns a shop for old BMWs who just did a Ural/BMW conversion. I thought he might either have what I needed or be able to make something that would work to get the bike home. I was in luck. He bought a bunch of inventory from an old Ural dealership when it closed down years ago. He had a brand new clutch cable he was willing to sell to me for $15 and several old used clutch cables which he was willing to part with for free. I bought the new one.

    In addition to selling me the cable, he let me ride on his creation. It's an old (1996 I think) Ural Italia with a BMW R75 motor and a CJ gear box. It was an interesting ride. The front drum brake seems no better than Fred Flintstone brakes. The bike stopped okay with use of the rear and sidecar brake too. The power delivery is different from the Ural, at least the 2014 Ural I'm used to. I'd say it felt smoother than my Ural. I did get a few false neutrals with the CJ gearbox but I'd say it had a smoother feel than the clunky feel of my Ural's gearbox. The owner is getting a new seat for the bike, so he may part with the red bench seat on his FrankenUral. If so, I want it. I liked the way it feels over the stock Patrol seat. And a red bench seat would probably look pretty good on my red Patrol. We'll see. Any way, here are some pics.
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    That's a classy looking bike, if you ask me.
  15. cycleman2

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    The airhead BMW clutch cables ( newer ones ) have a square end piece that goes into the hole on the handle. The problem is that because it is square it doesn't move freely/rotate and it binds and results in an early cable break. The trick is to gently file the square bits down so they are more or less round. Then the end piece can pivot without binding. Not sure if Ural does the same thing with their cables or not. Some where along the line BMW changed suppliers and the problem arose.

    How I know is mine broke last summer. I now carry spare clutch and throttle cables in the sidecar.
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  16. jwaller

    jwaller Been here awhile

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    I will now be carrying a spare in my sidecar as well. It takes up no room, so why not? I don't think my cable went too soon, really. I know my bike has a heavy clutch pull and I use it to commute, so it's pulled an awful lot. The cable held up for approximately 37,000 km of mostly commuting, so I can't complain. But I will always keep a spare from now on.
  17. Bobmws

    Bobmws Curmudgeon At Large

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    Ocassionally cleaning and lubing those ends also adds to longevity.
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  18. Tarka

    Tarka Strangely strange. Oddly normal.

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    If you do change a head gasket, make sure you fit the new one the correct way round.
    It's easy to miss but the oil return passageway at the bottom of the cylinder is off centre on the 750.
    On the 650 it's dead centre and doesn't matter which way round the gasket goes.
    If you put the 750 head gasket on the wrong way round, the drain hole will be blanked off and oil will pool in the rocker cover when the engine isn't running and make a big mess when removing it to check valve clearances.
    It can also seep past your valves or through an open valve into the combustion chamber and give a nice cloud of smoke on start up. :D
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  19. windmill

    windmill Long timer

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    Another very important thing is keeping the brake/throttle/clutch correctly adjusted. Cables that have too much free play flex excessively leading to fatigue failure.
  20. windmill

    windmill Long timer

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    Although I haven't had a clutch cable fail on a Ural, I do commute daily with a good portion of it in stop-and-go traffic so I'm looking forward to the Magura hydraulic clutch kit.