NASCAR Fans check in. (Haters welcome)

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  1. Human Ills

    Human Ills Useful Idiom

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    Explain to me how that was Gordon wrecking Boyers. :lol3 and under the old rules and systems which most sanctioning bodies implement, neither of them would be contenders.
  2. Minnesota

    Minnesota Conform or be cast out

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    My understanding is that Bowyer bumped into Gordon, which resulted in Gordon cutting a tire and having to make a green flag pit stop. When Gordon came back out on the track he drove slowly to allow Bowyer to catch up to him. When Bowyer went to pass Gordon on the low side Gordon hooked the right rear of his car and put him into the wall. I think that qualifies as Gordon wrecking Bowyer.
  3. shrineclown

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    That is true. Not only that, JG admitted he did it, and did it on purpose. Under the old rules FWIW, they would have had a sit down with Big Bill, in his Daytona office, and that would have been that. That is, if Big Bill had decided enough was enough already. Prairie justice, I rather liked it myself. YMMV.
  4. ScottDill

    ScottDill TANSTAAFL

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    Seems like a reasonable penalty. I appreciate hard-nosed competitiveness....but damn, that's just too much.

    I used to go to the Daytona 500 every year when I live in FL, but have really stopped following NASCAR for quite a while now.
  5. Human Ills

    Human Ills Useful Idiom

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    I'm seeing a bit of "it's okay for championship contenders to roughen up non-contenders for a pass" mixed with "make way for the contenders and allow the pass"

    I remember BK took a lot of heat for not getting out of the way of veterans a couple of years ago.
  6. linkweewee

    linkweewee tantum quantum

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    Sprint gives up their sponsorship of NASCAR in 2016, yet NBC just signed a 10 year 8 billion dollar deal with NBC and Fox. Did Sprint see the writing on the wall as far as not many people caring about NASCAR 10 years from now? How many gimmicks does NASCAR have left in the bag to keep fans interested in the championship?
  7. wxwax

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    I would assume that it's a combination of NASCAR's diminishing popularity and Sprint's financial circumstances and priorities.
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    More a function of Sprint's financial condition. While I was never that enamored with Brain and turd lip' s (Dulltone) tutelage, I have to give them credit that this may have been the most interesting season since the format change. It really was pretty interesting. Congrat's to Harvick.
  9. RedRocket

    RedRocket Yeah! I want Cheesy Poofs

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    I'm sure they'll find another large wallet within the 2 years.
  10. viajero

    viajero Too old to be a nOOb

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    And Americans are infinitely gullible.
  11. Mobiker

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    Been a fan since I was a kid in the '60's. The new championship format is so ignorant, that this was the first year ever that I just didn't care who won. I still enjoy the races, but the dumbasses in charge have ruined the championship as far as I'm concerned. No dog in the hunt, so not a big deal. I just wonder if they're going to gain enough new fans to offset the old ones they lose. Anyway...
  12. Icewalker

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    Frankly I'd much rather see a format like Aussie supercars or DTM or World Touring Cars than Nascar.

    I do like watching the odd sprint car race every now and then on short ovals ....
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    Jurgen Trolljegeren Super Moderator

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    Me as well, I enjoy the Road Course races much more than the Super Speedway stuff. But even though NASCAR has slipped a bit, its fans have spoken, ovals it will be.
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    Wonder how long that will last? In the old days the kids wanted to get anything with American Iron in it. These days imports, drifting and smaller displacement high hp cars are what's making the kids drool. Wonder if NASCAR will simply run out of audience ... unless of course it evolves.
  15. wxwax

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    The addition of the 1.5 mile ovals in Chicago, Las Vegas, Kansas, California, Texas and Arizona -- basically, NASCAR's expansion into a national sport -- may be driving fans away. The racing on those tracks is boring.
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    Funny thing is, due to geography, except for Chicago and California those are the ones I'm most likely to attend. But, yeah I think you are right. I think another aspect it too many races. Tighten up the calendar a bit, and less overlap with Football would be my advice.
  17. DirtFarmer

    DirtFarmer Has anyone seen my mother

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    Short tracks and road courses are the only tracks where NASCAR has not "Out Car'd" the tracks. Big problem with no good answer. Bigger problem when you own the tracks also. I would like to compare it to Bernie Ecclestone owning ten Monte Carlos. If he did, F1 would have bigger problems than just Bernie's haircut.

    I don't think you are correct here. Unless you are one these "I don't like these open wheel foreigners driving Toyota's on road courses" fans (I think you banned the last really vocal one here :lol3), road races have been one of the better venues for NASCAR. I think NASCAR drivers have really stepped up their game as teams have been building better handling cars. It really is pretty impressive watching them push those heavy sleds around. Also, improved TV coverage and online scoring systems make it very easy to follow road races.

    I think if fans really had their way, there would be more road races.

    I think NASCAR will realize it has fewer problems than it thinks it has when they accept a smaller market and drivers have to use less throttle and more brake. Oh, and dumbing down the cars is not the answer. I think plate racing has proved that out.
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    :nod Key part of the problem going forward.
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    I wish there were more road races but they think their cars are too big for so many tracks.
    Nationwide does just fine Montreal, and Road America.
    As for their shrinking market, yeah, it's just settling to a real number thats lower than their boom years.
    NASCAR really needs to shrink their super speedway engines.
  20. gmk999

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    Yesterday on one of the highlight shows they had a vid of one driver in a tantrum using his car to push another sideways (front bumper to door) and in the vid., the car pushing spun both front and rear tires. Are Nascars all wheel drive? I was looking for the clip to post but not knowing the driverrs and cars makes that dificult.