NB 4 corners Loop

Discussion in 'GPS Tracks - Alaska & Canada' started by CharlieMoncton, Jan 9, 2017.

  1. CharlieMoncton

    CharlieMoncton n00b

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    Hi Folks

    Well first off, I'll introduce myself to you folks! I'm Charles Landry, I helped scout / develop the Fundy Adventure Rally route.
    I have tons of trails in South East NB but I'm looking to develop a loop around NB.
    I'm hoping to avoid pavement as much as possible, mostly using logging roads or good trails. I do want to avoid the old railbeds. ideally the roads would be say doable with a 2wd vehicle so no crossing peat land.
    In the end, it will be around 1200-1500km loop of mostly logging road style roads. I MIGHT be able to ride it this summer but that's still to be seen.


    Here's what I have up to now! clearly it's just a map of the major logging roads in NB but using the outer path around the province you can make out a decent path. I just need to find a few more connector paths to max out the gravel %
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    KMZ file can be found here:
    https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0ByhDuRsR6zdMSmZiOUNYLXk3Qkk?usp=sharing

    Download, edit, upload, comment!
    I'd love your input!

    Cheers,
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  2. ForestFrog

    ForestFrog Been here awhile

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    I like you taking the time to make this happen and I think its a great idea. I have a decent knowledge in the Grand Falls to Mount Carleton area. I will try my best to give you a few suggestions from the area and will be big bike friendly. The only thing its not all crown land it requires a pass from Acadian Timber to pass the gates. Let me know what you need.
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  3. CharlieMoncton

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    ForestFrog Been here awhile

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  5. jmarleau

    jmarleau Been here awhile

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    Uploaded the route. Nice. Would love to give this a go with a big bike.

    I live in Riverview, but I have some experience with the area (red route on GPX) just south east of Saint John. I have attempted and failed to get through on the big adventure bike, but I was able to pass through this area with a mountain bike loaded with camping gear last summer.

    Some thoughts:

    (1) 45.205121, -65.910730 West Beach Road is your best bet across to St. Martins.

    (2) 45.207546, -65.902442 We were easily able to get big bikes through the left fork. The right had more water holes.

    (3) 45.213175, -65.883741 We stayed left here.

    (4) 45.241502, -65.857823 Here is the deal breaker for big bikes. We turned around here, back tracked, and took the Proud Rd. (45.239030, -65.976137) then Old Black River Rd. Water was thigh deep last summer. Approx 200m across. There is a small bank to the left of the road that you can walk across. We carried bicycles through. We went around with big bikes.

    (5) 45.262748, -65.867401 Old Black River Rd. is no problem here, but gets progressively worse east of here.

    (6) 45.261529, -65.841231 Beyond here, it gets really hard. We were still able to ride the big bikes.

    (7) 45.263546, -65.836254 We went straight here. Going left off Old Black River Rd. here takes us too far away from our direction, I did not scout this out.

    (8) 45.265488, -65.826940 There was a small bridge that is out here. We were able to shift a few rocks and drive up with the big bikes.

    (9) 45.267799, -65.819199 As you mentioned, Big Bridge out here. There is a small ATV path that leads you down to the rocky beach to the right. I drove down with my big bike and decided to turn around and ride back up. It would be a huge effort to drag big bikes across the creek. If you really needed to, maybe. This summer it was only ankle/shin deep, slow moving, but features basketball sized slippery rocks as a base. Past here, it is slow but doable then paved at Wharf Rd.

    Cheers.
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  6. CharlieMoncton

    CharlieMoncton n00b

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    Thanks jmarleau!

    I'll have a look at all your points in the near future. Thank you for your input.

    I'm very happy with the progress that was made even before the wheels hit the gravel. We'll have to make scouting parties and split up the tracks to get it all checked out. I'd love to get a good route to share with people as plenty of people dream of big trips far away but we have plenty of wilderness right here in NB. We got to shed our Highway / drive through province image!

    Cheers,

    Charles
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