1. Harpoonalt

    Harpoonalt Been here awhile

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    So, my daughter has had enough Vermont winters and is thinking of moving south. What can you kind inmates tell me about the general vicinity of Raleigh NC? Things to do, places to live and work? She's 25, with a degree in environmental science. She's up for an adventure/change and as a dad, I'm just doing some advance scouting. The only thing I know of NC is from a trip to the outer banks. Fill me in!
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  2. ph0rk

    ph0rk Doesn't Care

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    The triangle is one of the most educated metro areas in the Country (Was ranked 2nd, last I checked) in both terms of number of BA/BS degrees and MA/PHD/Professional degrees. Probably less than half of those in the area are NC natives, most of the outsiders are northern transplants.

    Unfortunately, our legislature has taken a hard turn for the derp side since our new Governor was inaugurated. The Gov. isn't exactly a peach, either. I haven't a clue what one does with a degree in environmental science, I'd think the job is the first thing to line up, but that's up to her. The new government isn't likely to be too favorable to that kind of stuff, unless she's of the "dumping chemicals in rivers hurts no one" or "Climate change won't affect NC coasts" camps.


    Depending on job location, there are several places to live with different feels - Durham and Raleigh in particular are pretty different in terms of night life, but neither is that bad, unless you're used to a place like Chicago or New York.

    Stay out of Chapel Hill/Carrboro unless you're an undergrad/grad student, sleeping with a student, or deranged.
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  3. TanasiRob

    TanasiRob Squid Emeritus

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    Environmental Science is kind of a broad spectrum.....

    My take on Raleigh was that it is a transient location with little or no love...
    Lots of corporate jobs =transient as typically corporate turn over is 4-5 years.
    Lots of College kids - also transient.

    Durham is highly populated with lower income.
    Raleigh is where people go to work (blue collar)
    the RTP is where people go to work (white collar)
    Chapel Hill is where the college kids go to get into trouble and the cost of living is not justifiable unless being surrounded by HOA rules turns you on.
    Cary is even worse than Chapel Hill with less college kids.

    and they all suffer from an ugly North Carolina tax structure.

    I have often said that North Carolina would be much better off if we could somehow push everything east of Greensboro back into the ocean.


    She will probably miss the mountains- so have her look to western NC especially with her educational background.


    Blowing Rock NC :evil
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  4. Mr. Ray

    Mr. Ray Chemically Enhanced

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    Western NC is amazing and if she can find a job she will fit in better here than the eastern part. We moved down here (to the eastern NC) about a year ago and moved to the western part of the state Jan 1 2013. Until we moved west I had my heart set on returning to New England.
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  5. wb57

    wb57 Long timer

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    I've been in Raleigh for about 25+ years and would be happy to answer any questions you might have. However, I have zero intention of discussing it with some of the folks who've posted above as it seems like it would certainly deteriorate into something I have zero interest in partaking in.

    That said, if you tend to think Bernie Sanders has it right, ignore anything I have to say.

    Feel free to contact me via PM.
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  6. DEPARKER1817

    DEPARKER1817 Been here awhile

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    I think she would like Asheville. I live in the Triad (Winston Salem, High Point and Greensboro) and it is not bad. Bout an hour to the mountains and 3 hours to the coast. Raleigh is great, just a little to far from the mountains for me, might not be an issue for her.
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  7. Harpoonalt

    Harpoonalt Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the replies! Just like here, views are all over the place on what it's like there. My kids trying to plan her adventure. No bike, but an adventure just the same. Dad (me) is just trying to give her the best shot of succcess that I can. Vermont's a great place but job opportunities are very limited, winters are long and excitement is rare. Her plan is to find a safe place to live, find a job, and move up the ladder.she's saved some money so she has a cushion. She feels like if she doesn't do this, she'll be stuck here forever. I told her she sounds like half the guys on here.
    More info, good or bad is always welcome!
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  8. NC BMW Rider

    NC BMW Rider Been here awhile

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    I lived in Raleigh for almost 30 years and saw it go from a nice little city to more of a metropolos (to those local to the area I moved there when Kildaire Farm Road in Cary was 2 lane and Kildaire Farms was still there).
    There are a lot of job opportunities in the triangle. Raleigh is good and she may want to try the EPA in the Research Triangle Park with her degree.

    I'm not a fan of Chapel Hill, but for a young person it can be a fun place to live if you can afford it.

    Other areas to consider in North Carolina are the Triad (Winston-Salem, Greensboro area), Asheville, or if she likes a really big city Charlotte. If she likes the beach look at Wilmington.

    Overall, NC is a nice place to live although the taxes are a little high.
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  9. 35xj

    35xj Long timer

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    asheville is hard to beat! if she wants to come check it out, my wife and i would be glad to show her around.
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  10. Rob578

    Rob578 Been here awhile

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    Go ahead and beat me up but I say ditch NC and look into DC, good jobs, nice weather, mtns an hour to the west, ocean an hour to the east, lively nite life

    Traffic sucks but you learn to deal with it
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  11. wb57

    wb57 Long timer

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    After growing up in the DC area, I learned to deal with the traffic by moving to NC. :deal :D

    When I was there, Haymarket was absolutely NOT considered a DC suburb.
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  12. late-apex

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    Ewww, DC, the worse part about being a trucker driving up and down I-95 is dealing with DC traffic and the incredibly moronic drivers.
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  13. hscrugby

    hscrugby "That guy"

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    I agree with some that's said above.
    I moved down here in 2003 from Va because I had a choice of unemployment, here or San Jose, Ca. with no pay increase. (I had basically lived in a hotel down here for the 2 years prior)

    Since then I've grown to love it. There are definite downsides, but that's true anywhere. A LOT has improved in the area for 20 somethings to do. Both activity wise and "night life" downtown.

    There are jobs, but given the economy everywhere, there are not a plethora of jobs. If she wants to head south, it might be smart to try and do one of the extended suites or a furnished apartment for a few months till she figures out where to live. Depending on her personality etc there really are VERY different attitudes in the "triangle" area. I'd avoid the southern side of town to avoid the toll road. But that's cause I'm cheap. :lol3
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  14. Harpoonalt

    Harpoonalt Been here awhile

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    Do you have any more info on the extended suites? Good idea for the first month or so. She's determined NC is where's she's headed. I appreciate all the info, good and bad. DC? You have to be a special sort to deal with that traffic.
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  15. 4PawsHacienda

    4PawsHacienda Been here awhile

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    Depends on the lifestyle she wants. Most people from the north are more comfortable with the urban environments and look mainly at the Triangle area of Raleigh/Durham vicinity or Charlotte. Fast paced and vibrant communities with unmatched economic opportunities and "plenty of action".

    Asheville region is great; also sorta fast growing and quite vibrant with lots to recommend for a younger person (or a retiree!). Another possibility is the coastal region of Wilmington if she might prefer the ocean lifestyle rather than the mountains. Both have a lot to offer and are more "laid back" than the urban centers. Throwing a dart at a map I'd choose one of these as a place I'd want to live long term for quality of life overall.

    Greensboro / Winston-Salem is the other semi-major region. Been here over 40 years and still can't figure out what the heck is going on around here.

    NC is a decent place as far as quality of life and weather. My niece moved to Cary "blindly" 5 yrs ago from NJ, found a job in less than a month and just bought a place of her own. Hopefully your daughter ill also like it.

    PM if you want anything.
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  16. Rob578

    Rob578 Been here awhile

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    You're right The truckers don't get a lot of love around here
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  17. concord concours

    concord concours n00b

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    moved to Charlotte area 16 years ago from western new york. 2 regrets are I wish I would have checked out Greenville SC. and wish I would have
    moved 20 years sooner but it all worked out and we are happy:clap
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  18. Clockwatcher

    Clockwatcher Been here awhile

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    You send your daughter down here to NC, we will send phork to vermont
    and give you an option at a later date..........:deal
    Assuming your daughter has a better attitude than this guy.........:clap
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  19. Harpoonalt

    Harpoonalt Been here awhile

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    I appreciate all the help! Makes dad feel a litlle better about sending the kid off to seek her fortune! She has more adventurous spirit than I did at her age. Don't be sending anybodyy to Vermont...we have half of NJ here already :1drink
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  20. hscrugby

    hscrugby "That guy"

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    Can we send the other half of NJ back up that way?

    :rofl
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