Neale Bayly Rides kinda sucks

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by guitarin, Jun 16, 2013.

  1. ktmdirtybiker

    ktmdirtybiker Been here awhile

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    I watched the first two episodes on demand last night. I am assuming that they are going to an orphanage to do some work, a good deed I guess. My question is, would it have been better to take all the money it cost to produce this show, plus all the money these highly paid people could have earned in the time it took to do the show and give it to the orphanage? Then they could hire local people and boost the local economyand fix the building. A friend who works for a charity in Africa told me of a donation to her charity of half a million dollars. A large gift to be sure, then the donor spent over a million dollars telling the world how generous they were.
    I am the last guy to tell anybody how to give away their money, but I was taught never to brag about how generous I am in comparison to someone else. Be charitable and be quiet about it. A wise man once said " It is amazing how much you can get done when you don't try and get credit for it".
    I will try and watch the rest of the shows and maybe I will feel less jaded by this show. I have never traveled anywhere except the US, but I have seen lots hard working very poor people in my travels in my big truck. If I had been in some of the poorer sections of America wearing three or four thousand dollars worth of clothing in front of people whose clothes are falling apart, I am not sure what my feelings would have been.
    Hopefully thus show will get better.
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  2. guitarin

    guitarin Been here awhile

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    NO BURN!:evil
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  3. Mercury264

    Mercury264 Once you go Triple...

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  4. Mercury264

    Mercury264 Once you go Triple...

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  5. flei

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    :puke1 a lot of discussion about a TV SHOW- television sucks.:puke1
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  6. Geolander

    Geolander Scruffy Nerf Herder

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    I had to find it on demand to see what all the fuss was about. As I am home with a bruised ACL from my last ride anyway I managed to get through both episodes.. With the help of some marijuana.

    It's crap.

    Best part so far, the old doctor chick in a bikini FTW.
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  7. cliffy109

    cliffy109 Long timer

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    Not from that clip they are not. That clip is indeed despicable but it is also clearly not from this show's ride. The people, gear and bikes are not what are seen in the BMW sponsored show.

    As to the show, I guess I am able to separate the silliness from the cool stuff. There is a fair amount of cool stuff to see. In a strange way, I also kind of enjoy watching 3 VERY privileged people coping with this. They just don't have the same view of the world as I do and it is like watching a dog that is seeing snow for the first time. They poke and prod and don't know what to make of any of it. They are pretty clueless and that is part of what makes the show entertaining.

    The riding is indeed fun to watch. South America is VERY different than what we here here in the US. It reminds me of my own trip to Chile and Argentina and makes me want to go back. I couldn't afford the accommodations they have but again, I can overlook that on TV.
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  8. dwayne

    dwayne Silly Adventurer

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    that right there is why you shouldn't buy product based solely on what a rep says.
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  9. dwayne

    dwayne Silly Adventurer

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    I saw that too. It made me swear. Then I realized it might be an edit by some idiot producer... either way someone has no clue.
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  10. The_Commander

    The_Commander The Man.

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    What a shitshow.
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  11. JimNtexas

    JimNtexas Been here awhile

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    I agree 100%. While every criticism in this thread is more or less valid, I still enjoyed seeing a 3 hour TV show with interesting motorcycles and rides in it.

    I just didn't let the 'drama' bother me.
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  12. Mossy_Crk

    Mossy_Crk Fallen over

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    Recently I had the chance to chat at length with someone affiliated with the show. I was told that not too long ago Neale brought another show with really nice teaser footage and shopped it around to the usual networks. Each one told his it was too "smart" and needed to be dumbed down for the US market. A motorcycle travel show which focused on motorcycles and/or travel was not going to make it on air. I got the impression that what we saw edited together for this NBR isn't the show he wanted to show, but the best he could get on air. There was enough footage shot to tell a very different story had they wanted/been able to.

    In order to get the type of show most of us here are wanting, we need to get vocal with the folks at networks like Fox-Speed and their advertisers and let them know that not only is there is a demographic for this, but that we will spend money with those companies who choose to support and advertise with that type of show.

    The hate of Charlie/Ewan in the community didn't help our cause much. Here was some serious cash thrown down and people still make fun of them and call them posers for support crews (because they had a schedule and $$$ film equipment) like any prime time quality show has to have. This is all a guess on my part, but I'm thinking advertisers wouldn't want to tie themselves to programming that gets ridiculed by the "hard core," whatever the hell that term even means these days.

    This NBR was okay. Just okay. I think it had potential to be so much more though. Maybe we'll get to see more of the riding that got left on the editing room floor.
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  13. BlueLghtning

    BlueLghtning Riding is my passion

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    In the end, I agree that the show was just okay. I enjoyed it enough to watch all 3 episodes but it certainly isn't worth re-watching. I do think it could have been so much more though and I'm sure the networks had a heavy hand in how it turned out.

    It was funny as my wife thought Dr Laura was very unrepresentative of the female adventure motorcycle rider. I mean, who brings all that jewelry, a couple dresses, a different outfit and then some for an 8 day + motorcycle trip. Well, I guess one where you don't have to carry your own luggage. :evil Oh yeah, and she was in full make-up every time you see her with the helmet on. :lol3

    James was a bit of a whiny butt and the fact they focused so much time on whether or not he was fit to ride and just wouldn't let it go really hampered this last episode. I thought the whole forcing people to ride in the truck every episode was a bit over the top too. I mean, you are on an adventure ride and you are going to have some tough times with weather and less than ideal conditions to get through. I guess though when you have a support truck, the option is there. I think Troy got the best seat time though when they were experiencing the wet cold weather going over the high pass. Of course, he missed out on some epic riding too.
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  14. kingby

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    I couldn't watch. Everytime it came on, I kept seeing that guy (don't know which one) with that goofy looking blue fringy toque on. That one small thing drove me to change the channel everytime. Petty I know, but is got under my skin for some reason.

    If I got any further, I am sure there were numerous other irritating elements to this show.

    Funny how one small item (and really a meaningless one) had me change the channel. I wonder if producers see those types of issues when they put the shows together?? I stopped me from watching.
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  15. cardoctor1

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    watched the last 20 minutes. i thought bmw's had heated grips. :lol3
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  16. Visian

    Visian Look out!

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    Really good post. :thumb

    The wise man you mention was Robert Woodruff, the guy who made Coca-Cola what it is today. The actual words are "There is no limit to what a man can achieve as long as he doesn't care who get's the credit." (Harry Truman also used to say it.) Words to live by... :nod

    Corporate philanthropy is a very important part of the marketing mix, and it's not always easy to promote it gracefully.

    Neale Bayly is a personal friend and his passion for philanthropy is infectious. The story about how he found that orphanage in the first place is way more revealing of the man than what he said about that poor woman's teeth. That was an unfortunate thing to say or do and I am certain he'd like to take those words back.

    Last, you can be sure that there was puh-lenty of input regarding the show's treatment from the broadcasting executives. As someone else said above the best way to get more programming that's of interest to us riders is not to pick on a ton of little shit here on the Internets.

    jmo.


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  17. JimVonBaden

    JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid!

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    It was a bit hokey, fake drama, and some other nonsense. But keep in mind that they need to appeal to the widest possible audience. This is what research has shown works!

    It is not made for the few who actually ride off road, but for the many who do not.:deal

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  18. JimVonBaden

    JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid!

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  19. Velocifer

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    I work at making documentaries that people are interested in, and that are hopefully informative.
    Ive watched two episodes of this show. To me, this is basically a "reality" show. There is nothing about these people to make me moderately interested in their personalities or exploits. It's the human stories that most people find interesting.
    This ain't it. I do like to see motorcycles zooming around, though !
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  20. rocketman1098S

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    I agree with the above, but wow...what a tough crowd otherwise! Lol... I watched the whole series and really liked it. However, I too count Neale as a friend. I went to the "premier" party and knew a little bit more of the background premise. The project was put together on a relative shoestring budget. It was never intended as a How-to ride of Peru. Even the title "Moto Cause: Neale Bayly Rides" should let you know. The series was intended to attempt to reach a larger audience than just hard core adventure riders. The hope was to entertain present riders, interest non-riders in our sport, intrigue casual riders to raise the bar for themselves to ride at higher/more varied levels, and probably the greatest was to raise interest and benefit his most loved cause.., the Hogar Belen Orphanage in Moquegua.
    There is some merit to lots of what has been stated in this thread. The challenge of distilling days down to three hours of viewing must be horrendous, but to try to do so in such a manner as to reach the maximum audience.....I can't imagine. Again, I really liked it. I felt it was artfully woven of multiple layers of diverse personalities, adventure motorcycling, and a worthy charitable cause. The show and its surrounding social media, and other, exposure has generated thousands of dollars for the orphans of Hogar Belen.
    Would I like to see a hard-core, technical, adv, motorcycle show. Absolutely! Shoot some positive feedback to SPEED, and include those thoughts.

    http://www.speedtv.com/feedback

    Or, check out the organization that Neale founded. Maybe donate a buck or two!


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    http://wellspring-outreach.org/people.html

    I will now put my soapbox back into storage........
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