Neduro's Tire Changing Class

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by neduro, Aug 24, 2004.

  1. neduro

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    I debated on where to put this, and decided on Thumpers as we probably change our tires the most in here. Maybe it belongs in "The perfect line" but I've never been in there, and it seems to compliment Creepers excellent tube thread pretty well. So here goes.

    It is a sad fact of life that motorcycle tires are a short lived affair, especially the knobbly ones that so many of us enjoy punishing in the dirt. During the summer, I change tires every other week, or at most, every third week (either putting new ones on or rotating old ones to utilize the sharp side of the knob). Because I do it so much, I have gotten better at it than I used to be, and I thought perhaps I could share that hard won knowledge.

    These pictures happen to have been taken changing dirt tires, but the techniques shown here apply equally to street tires (well, maybe not the bits about rim locks and tube positioning). Later this week, I'll throw new tires on the GS and will document that as well.

    Tire changes are not difficult. In putting together this set of directions, I changed both tires on my KTM at an unhurried pace, including shooting 72 pictures which took lots of time to pose, and including cleaning and greasing axles, checking brake pads, and validating spoke tension, in 54 minutes from first picture to last. I never used more than moderate force, did not break a sweat, and no curses were uttered.

    A few things to have in mind as you approach this project.
    1) If you are using force, you are doing it wrong. You are not stronger than the tire bead, and you don't want to be (broken beads mean wasted tire). If things are not happening easily, THINK about what forces you are putting on the tire and reposition things to align those forces with what you are trying to do. Like most things, tire changes are more a mental exercise than a physical one.
    2) The devil, as they say, is in the details. A small change in position or etc can make all the difference. Pay attention to the subtleties of what you are doing. The single most important thing to notice is that the profile of the rim has a dish, or a low point, at the center where the spokes join. This dish is your friend- if the bead of the tire is resting down in the dish, it will be loose on the opposite side. If not, not even a 50 HP dirtbike can break it free.
    3) Always look at the side of the tire opposite where you are working. All of the tension that you are working around is generated over there, not at the point where the tire iron is contacting the tire.

    Again, these same approaches will apply to street tires as well, but I'll just focus on the pictures I have for now and worry about the others later.

    Tire Removal:

    We'll assume, for a moment, that you are able to get your bike situated so that the wheel in question is free, and are able to remove it, and so we'll start with the wheel off the bike and go from there.

    I like to change tires using the new (or old) tire as a rest for the work I'm doing. The primary reason for doing so is to keep the sprockets and brake rotors off the floor and unbent. Lots of companies make nifty stands, but I've never been able to justify one given how well another tire works.

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    Step 1: Let air out. Remove the valve stem all the way, so that the tube can "breathe" as you change the volume of the tire through your manipulations. Tip: loosen the valve stem nut, if you have one, prior to letting the air out.

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    Step 2: Loosen (but do not remove) Rim Lock. Once the nut is loose, push the stem in to make sure that the rim lock has released its grip on the tire carcass. You may need to hit the stem with your socket hammer that you used to loosen the nut to get it to let go.

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    Step 3: Break the bead. On dirt tires, this is no big deal- I'm doing it here with my chaco'd foot. I can also do it by hand, if I feel like getting dirty. This is the biggest difference for street tires; we'll get to that later. If you're feeling uppity, turn the tire over and break the other side right now too, but chances are good that it doesn't really matter, that it will come free during your other manipulations anyway.

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    Step 4: Insert 2 tire irons, 4-6” apart, 90 degrees off the valve stem and/or rim lock. You don't want to go opposite the stem or rim lock because then the bead can't seat all the way into the dish of the rim. You don't want to be anywhere close to them because they will make it harder to get the bead out. So, split the difference.

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    Step 5: Start working around tire away from initial "bite", inserting tire irons close at first and farther as the bead gets looser. Tip: if the tire is making it difficult to get the iron inside the bead, insert the tire iron just out from where the bead is crossing from outside to inside. It will be a very small bite, but it will be easy to get the iron in.

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    Step 6: Continue to work all the way around the tire until one whole side is off. Step on the middle of the rim and pull the tube out, taking care to ease the valve stem out through the hole in the rim.

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    Step 7: Flip rim and tire up to vertical, and insert tire iron as shown to pull second side toward the same as the first. Use the other iron to pull the bead off. Once you get about 1/4th of the way around, you should be able to simply jerk the rim out of the tire.

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    Congratulations. You are now halfway through the project.
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  2. creeper

    creeper Still alive...

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    Excellent job so far. They just might have to put this in the "how to" section. There are some folks out there that have never done a manual tire change who will really appriciate you're efforts.
    Ah, you think you could use a woman's foot for the rest... about a size 6 in a nice stilletto :evil
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  3. ilmostro

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    Kewl :thumb

    Do you have to wear "Alabama Safety Boots" to properly change a tire? :dunno
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  4. Steelhead

    Steelhead It's all good

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    Teacher can I chew gum in your classroom? :wave
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  5. neduro

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    Hey, at least I didn't go for flip-flops. Those are the true "alabama safety boots".

    Looks like I'm out of bandwidth on Smugmug. :cry I guess the rest of the report will have to wait for next month...
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  6. neduro

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    Or, you can just give Baldy more money. $16.85 for YFF's. Hope you're grateful. :rofl

    Next section- Installing a tire, coming soon.
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  7. neduro

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    A few words before we get started on installing the new rubber.

    Your primary task in installing a new tire is protecting the tube from damage. You want to make sure the tube is lying straight throughout the tire, so that it won't chafe on itself and cause a flat. You want to make sure not to damage the tube with the end of your tire iron. You want to make sure that the valve stem is nicely aligned with the hole in the rim, so that it doesn't rip the stem from the tube upon shifting.

    New KTM's often locate the valve stem hole relatively close to the rim lock hole, which is very convenient for tire changes as we are about to see, although it does not help the balance any. However, many other makes will have the valve stem and rim lock opposite- I'll cover that eventuality in a moment.

    Some dual-sporters like to run 2 rim-locks, to improve tire balance. I've done this, and it does help with balance, but it's a bitch to install, and no way around it. We'll save that for the advanced class. Personally, I never bother anymore. I really can't feel the difference when push comes to shove.

    As above, if doing the rear wheel, it is nice to work on the side opposite the sprocket. Plan accordingly.

    I do not use any soap or water- I prefer the tire to be a little sticky, so that it holds position as I work on it. Others disagree with me. Experiment and make up your own mind.

    Step 1: install the valve stem and add some air to the tube. The goal is to give the tube enough body to roll itself out of the way of the tire iron or etc, without making it hard to get the bead into the dish of the rim. Another important function of adding air before you start is that it will ensure the tube lies flat, with no twists or kinks, inside the tire.

    You will be hard pressed to flat the tube with your tire iron if you have added some air first.

    Step 2: Install the tube in the tire (I cheated here and put the tube in the tire before adding air).

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    Step 3: Align tire/tube combo with rim/rimlock combo, so that valve stem is ready to pass through the hole.

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    Step 4: If the valve stem and rimlock are in the same quadrant of the wheel, you've got it easy, because you can pass the valvestem through the hole in the rim, and align the rimlock all at the same time.

    If they are opposite, just worry about aligning the rimlock for now. I'll show pics of how to deal with the valvestem in a moment.

    Aligning the rimlock- you want to push the rimlock down, so that it is between both beads of the tire and when the time comes, can suck the beads up and into the rim as it is designed to do. Trust me- if the rimlock is not inside the beads, you will not pass go, and you will not collect $200 no matter how hard you try.

    Here the valve stem has passed through;
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    And here the rimlock has been pushed between the beads and the tire is ready to be pulled on.
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    Step 5: Pull the first side of the tire down onto the rim, taking care as always to keep the bead in the dish of the rim.

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    If you could not slide the valve stem in at the outset, here's where you do so:

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    Note that the valve stem is aligned with the hole it will pass through.

    This picture sucks, but all I'm doing is shoving the valvestem inside the tire.
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    And this picture sucks too, but I'm lifting up the tire from the opposite side (the one that is already on) so that I can move the valve stem into the hole.

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    So, now we've got one side of the tire on, the valve stem and rim lock positioned correctly, and the second side completely off. We're in the home stretch.

    Step 6: The second side of the tire. You want to start with the portion of the tire immediately adjacent to the valve stem, so that the bead of the tire won't trap the tube adjacent to the valve stem.

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    From there, you want to work the shortest route toward the rimlock. If the rimlock and valve stem are exactly opposite each other, whichever direction will be fine.

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    And finally, you want to finish the tire off 90 degrees from the valvestem and rimlock, so that they are not in the way of getting the bead into the dish of the rim. As always, take care that the opposite bead is down in the dish…

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    Step 7: Air the tire up. Always fill tubes slowly- not from a 120 psi compressor that's all charged up. Filling the tube too quickly can result in a twist that does not resolve itself. Bicycle floor pumps are best, but if you must use a compressor (I do), just switch it off once it hits 40 psi or so.

    Step 8: tighten the rimlock- this should always be done after adding air to the tire, so that the tube has no chance of being caught between the rimlock and the tire bead, AND so that the tire has the best chance to seat evenly.

    Done!


    Mmmm... Fresh Meat...

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  8. Drif10

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    Good how-to. :thumb

    Trick I use is WD40 as a lube for mounting. When it dries it makes the rubber tacky, which damn near glues it to the rim. This makes for a wheel that don't need a rim lock. :D
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  9. creeper

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    No soap, no freakin' baby powder... just the way you do it if you have to do it in the middle of nothing and no place.
    Good job neduro :thumb
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  10. neduro

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    Until you hit water... :D Used to use WD-40 on my grips, for the same reason, but it loosens up quick once it gets wet.

    On the XR, in the desert, it's actually necessary to use 2 rim locks if you're gonna be on it hard. That thing will turn the rim inside the tire otherwise.

    As for baby powder, I use it every so often. It does help the tube lie nicely. But with big HD tubes, it is a bit superfluous...
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  11. Jeff620RXC

    Jeff620RXC Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the demo!
    Excellent!
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  12. motozilla

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    :thumb Good info Ned. Posts like this are what make you a hell of a guy.
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  13. creeper

    creeper Still alive...

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    Ned is a hell of a guy? I didn't see any ladies size 6 stillettos in his post... which makes him a wanker... but a hell of a wanker :D
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  14. AntWare

    AntWare Lost In Translation

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    Great how-to Ned :thumb

    Couple of personal preferences, I like to over inflate and release air to get to desired PSI, just to help things seat.

    On offroad tyres, I always tighten the locking nut against the dust cap instead of the rim, this allows the tyre to rotate slightly without ripping the valve stem out of the tube.

    Thanks for taking the time and trouble. :nod
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    You rang...

    Thanks for the thread ned! :thumb
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  16. Carlos M

    Carlos M www.motoxplorers.com

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  17. terry.mc

    terry.mc Stop ruining my vacation

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    Pffft...

    No swearing, No pinch flats, no busted knuckles?

    That not changing a tire.

    Thanks for taking the time and the pictures. :1drink
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  18. kirkmoon

    kirkmoon Making up for lost youth

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    Thanks Ned. :thumb
    I'm gonna go out in the garage tomorrow and give it a try. :yikes

    You think those Motion Pro tire irons are the way to go? Do you use those same ones out on the trail or the smaller (8"?) ones?
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  19. Ricardo Kuhn

    Ricardo Kuhn a.k.a. Mr Rico Suave

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    but you are a person of incredible talent..

    I thank you for taking your time in making this exelent compendium of tricks and advice..

    Note:I think the sandals are a exelent touch since they show how little force you need if you are changing the tyres the "right" way

    NOTE II: i will love to see you riding the GS they way you ride the XR that for sure will be something to see:ricky
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  20. neduro

    neduro Addict Super Moderator

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    Meant to say something about that.

    I really like the bend of the Motion Pros- the length isn't really important, but the subtle shape of the ends is nice.

    I use short little 'uns out on the trail. Except, I've never had to. (looking for wood to knock).

    KM: Let me know if there is anything that is unclear when you go through the process, and I can try to document it better. My intent was to make something worth saving as a reference- it's not there yet, but with some input from folks, I think it could be. So, don't be shy.

    :thumb

    PS: both of Ant's tips are good 'uns. Except that he shouldn't be posting here when his Alaska trip report is more important :rofl

    PSS: If I asked my GF to wear stilleto heels and a short skirt for a tire changing photo shoot that I was doing for a bunch of weird old guys on the internet, I think the report would never have happened. You see, it's hard to change tires with two broken legs and eyes swollen shut...


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