Need Flagstaff Advice - Relocation

Discussion in 'West – California, the desert southwest and whatev' started by LostViking, Jan 21, 2014.

  1. LostViking

    LostViking Long timer

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    I just wanted to take a moment to thank everyone for the advice. It all helps.

    Sandwash,

    Nice, if that is a DR it looks like you have taken it a long ways from stock. Giving some thought to possibly downsizing the Tenere to a KLR,
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  2. DerViking

    DerViking Shred

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    Yesterdays paper said the 2013 monthly median was actually $290k each month, I was under by $40k. Yeah, frickin expensive, but it's pretty, and there is lots of riding, if not much single track anymore.
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  3. LostViking

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    I have to tell ya, if I have to spend $290K for a house. When you guys come to visit I will be the guy in the Yurt.

    I have been looking on Trulia and Zillow and see enough places for $100 - $175K to give me some hope. It doesn't take too many 8 million dolar homes to skew the average.

    Having worked in the Vail and Aspen area last year. Where the dogs are worth more than I was. I was sill able to find a great place to rent for a reasonable price.

    But housing is cart before the horse. I have to get the position first.

    Apptitude test - No Problem,
    Drug Test - No Problem,

    Personality Test - 50/50 Shot,
    It seems telling the truth is no longer a valuable trait.

    How are the taxes out there?
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  4. LostViking

    LostViking Long timer

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  5. sandwash

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    Ya 97 dr650 far from stock.Stiffer springs front(DCC) and back,FCR pumper cab,way comfy seat,5 gal IMS tank.Just to name a few.I might go nuts'o and go the the 790 kit.
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  6. 2 SPOT

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    if you move out here i'll be making friends,, sounds like we'd get along perfectly.

    i aint spending 290k for a house,,,, i'd have a real hard time justifying much more than about 120k. i'd rather spend money on playing and travel than a mortgage.

    and the bit about the personality test,,, no shit, i was apparently too honest to work for the city when i went through and aced all the other tests they had for a position i wanted.

    but i also think it had something to do with too many white guys and not enough "minorities" and maybe i was just the odd man out to hire a minority even if he was less qualified, read about that all the time.
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  7. thegraydog

    thegraydog 2 wheels X 6 ways

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    From what I hear, Arizona is a low tax state, and Coconino is a low tax county. And New York is a high tax state. So you may find that in your favor.

    $100K of housing money will get you a doublewide thirty miles from town, or maybe not. And thirty miles out is bleak, in most directions. Anything under $250K needs 50K of rehab.... rent seems to be $800, less if you room-mate or go for the student studio. Quite a few folks seem to live in the woods playing hide-and-seek with the the constabulary, but you know, that's work too...

    Work: if you have a CDL, or if you can mig and tig, come on out. Otherwise, think about a visit in April-May-June. If you can stand it then, find the job....
    I've always heard work is really scarce in upstate NY. It's thin here, but probably not that thin....
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  8. LostViking

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    I don't need a lot of space. I will look for something like this. Off the grid is fine, actually preferred.

    For Sale:
    2200 W Raney Rd, Ash Fork AZ 86320
    $101,000
    2 bd / 2 ba / 836 sqft
    See it on Trulia.
    http://www.trulia.com/property/3088661125-2200-W-Raney-Rd-Ash-Fork-AZ-86320


    Having lived in several different places. I have come to the conclusion every state finds some creative ways to extract money from it's residents. Most of New York is a high tax state. Not as much up here where I live.

    I have roughly a 1000sqft house here with a detached garage and tool shed on about 8 acres. Not overly fancy. But It works for me,
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    It is tucked neatly in the woods, on a quiet dead end road, with only one neighbor in sight and that is only in the winter, when the leaves are off,
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    And it has something no house should be without, complete with both indoor and outdoor lighting.
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    Total combined school and property taxes are just under $1,800.00 Electric is cheap, fuel/gas is high, and they seem to pick your pockets in other more subtle ways.

    I don't own a television or a cell phone, so I save some on that end. I don't smoke and I rarely go to bars. So more money stays home.

    I live pretty simply by choice. I am into bushcrafting, and self reliance,
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    I would rather spend my time outdoors. As time goes by, I look to relearn the ways of the past.
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    I will miss this. The Adirondack Park is a great place for the canoe,
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    I live in the playground of Nessmuk and French Louie!
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    I looked on Best Place's relocation calculator. And Flag comes in higher than here. For reference I used Malone, N.Y. The closest real town to me.

    I have a CDL-A and can weld pretty well. At least with low hydrogen stick(7018) or GP Rod(6013). Wire feed I never messed with. Mostly welded on things like excavator booms and dozer blades and skidder hitches. I can weld overhead, and vertical.

    That being said, that is not the job I am looking for. I can also run that stuff with some modicum of efficiency. I actually dug Dan Rather's foundation in a place called Turnwood in the Beaverkill Valley of NewnYork. Did earthwork for Deano Bradlee, the son of Ben Bradlee, and many other so called celebrities. I can actually claim that I had Miss Australia on my lap, in my D-6R. No small feat I might add.

    But I tired of consoling the rich folks, and moved on. I coulld be talked into getting back into dirt work. I like the legacy it leaves after you are gone. But at the moment that is not the direction I am looking towards.

    Not wanting to jinx my chances so not talking about the job much yet. Plus competition for it is already high enough.

    I am job driven, not wanting to move first and then look for work. I find I make bad decisions when I am hungry and broke. And you can burn through a lot of money fast with no job. Plus I do not like to admit I failed in my objectives.

    This in it's early stage. They seem to like me. But there are many steps to be taken as I mentioned above. In todays world you navigate through a series of HR folks fresh out of college with a newly minted degree that can control your destiny. Many have no clue about the job you will perform, nor could they do it. But base their decisions on a set of standardized tests that seem to have recently permeated corporate America.

    I seem to be blessed with some very unique talents. But they are offset by my desire for independence, inability to lie, and lack of desire to kiss people's asses unnecessarily. In today's corporate employment scenario, that makes me less attractive than many others. But it is my life long desire to leave this planet with my integrity in tact.
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  9. 2 SPOT

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    nice featherstick:D.
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  10. redog1

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    I respect and envy that lifestyle, hard to go back once you leave "simple" behind but I'm trying, maybe not to that extent but certianly simpler than where I'm at now. :D

    You sound like a person of good character.
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  11. Epy

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    LostViking, it looks like you live in paradise.
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  12. LostViking

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    Yes, If you could back out some of the socioeconomic issues. This place is about perfect. I can think of no other place I rather spend the fall than here. The summers are quite tolerable. Although as a bike rider, I could stand a longer riding season. We have had snow on the ground here since before Thanksgiving. And the -24 days can test your resolve.

    If you are an outdoor enthusiast the opportunities are endless. Lake Placid/Whiteface is just a ways down the road. There are mountains to climb. An interconnested system of lakes and rivers for canoeing. Great riding is all around.

    And to off set the stereotypical version of New York. The town I grew up in still does not have a traffic light. We don't lock our doors, and the keys are in the Jeep and the bike. I cant't even see another house in the summer.

    There are farms all around. But much like other states, we have people move in. They buy a house next to a dairy farm. Then three months later, they are at town board meetings complaining about the smell. Or that the get woke up at 05:00 by the spreading of manure. They buy a house on a dirt road (yes we have dirt roads here too) and bitch that their fancy car
    Is always covered in dust. Then demand that their road get paved. And then wonder why their taxes go up.

    The lack of common sense here is huge. And truthfully, it is the intangibles that are driving me away. It is the constant chip, chip, chip, of my rights and freedoms that worries me the most. Yes it is occuring everywhere. But it is happening at an exponential rate here. For me, I hope to be on the smart side of the Mississippi if things get worse.

    The Superbowl is a prime example, the amount of freedom that will be given up and voluntarilly accepted just to go see a football game, scares the heck out of me. Snipers at a football game, really? Blackhawks, F-16s, "Homeland Security"
    I understand they are protecting me from "Terrorists". But who is protecting me and the rest of us from them?

    I will stop there. I "Really" do not want this tread to turn into a political debate. But I think it is reasonable when you are asking for help. That you take the time to allow those that might help you, to get to know you a little better. For better or worse this is who I am.

    Thanks again to all who have responded so far.
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  13. mrxinpa

    mrxinpa Just Get Out and Ride !!!

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    I almost moved to Flagstaff back in 2011. Damn Corporate politics got in the way & my plant manager here in Pa gets pissed off that I want to move out west & plays some off handed BS after my interview out there. They had made me an offer I had been out there looking at housing, schools & everything.

    An inmate turned my onto a real estate agent from out there. We had discussed my preferences & weeded thru a lot of properties to focus our time better while I was in town..

    The flash flood that devastated the Dorny Park area still looms over residents head. It's not a matter of if will happen again more of the When It happens again. Will the next flood follow the same path? You could drive up & down one street & see the remnants of the high water or mud line & sand bags still in place then one street over they where' effected at all. I'd stay clear. Going just a bit further north I found several communities that are setup as fully off the grid. Haul your own water etc. some really great value there for a simple lifestyle!

    I loved the vibe of the town. The friendly ness of the locals. The load back pace to life in general. & don't forget... Flagstaff averages 300days of sunshine a year!
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  14. Riverlivin

    Riverlivin Living COOR's dreams in a keystone budget

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    I know this is off topic, but I'll be in flagstaff for the next 3 days for class, so if any one is up for a beer or dinner hit me up






    Sorry for the thread Jack
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  15. LostViking

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    No worries,

    Have one for me!
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  16. LostViking

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    Just an update for you guys,

    At present I appear to be in Corporate Hiring Limbo, that stage where I have not been hired nor have I been declined. Did several interviews and so far so good. But that and a quarter will net you twenty-five cents.

    It seem these companies work on their own time frame.

    Last year a company took three months to decide to hire me and finally called on a Thursday afternoon and wanted to know if I could be on the job 2000 miles away the following Monday.

    Just wanted to update those who made the effort to respond.

    LV,
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