Need help deciding which bike to get

Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by Young Adventurer, Sep 9, 2013.

  1. Young Adventurer

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    Hey all, new to forums here. Sorry if this is over asked on the forums just spent over an hour searching through but here i am.

    I'm 18 years old, only have about 6 months of motorcycle experience. I'm very interested in getting an adventure bike, to the point where its all i think about and am willing to do anything to get one (short of stealing one). I work full time and have worked out that i can afford a monthly payment.

    At first i was interested in the G650GS, since i am a new rider, but after many hours of research and going to the dealership i am leaning towards either the F700GS or the F800GS.

    I will mostly be on tarmac, but plan on going to the desert here in colorado for over night rides. I also want the most reliable bike i can get, after owning a beater sport bike i want something reliable!

    Also i am 230 pounds 6' 1". I guess my question is which bike would someone with a GS recommend for a newb like me, who doesnt plan on being a newb for long?
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  2. Full Power

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    Klr650
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  3. 3Rrr

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    I would get a used KLR650.

    After driving it off the lot they don't depreciate too much. Look for one with suspension upgrades (if you are lucky).

    You can get a taste for the ADV life - and know what specifically will suit your riding.

    KLR's are cheap and inexpensive to fix comparatively.

    With your size you would fit a F800GS better than a 700 or 658.

    Budget is usually the deciding factor.

    Welcome to the forum.
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  4. The Island

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    Going from a beater street bike to a KLR is the perfect prerequisite for someone with only a few months of experience on a motorcycle and wanting to get into adv riding.

    It makes sense to think that deciding what bike you want is based on past experiences with other bikes you had to determine exactly what you want/need in your next bike.

    Give the KLR a try — you will then be better outfitted to make an expensive decision on a very great motorcycle when the time comes.
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  5. Pete7874

    Pete7874 Been here awhile

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    +1

    Don't get yourself overly in debt on a fun toy, especially when you're still a relatively inexperienced rider so the risk of wrecking it is high, especially when off roading. Besides, a used KLR should be cheaper to insure.
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    Appreciate the replys everyone, i was actually looking at the KLR's. I'm not so sure they're as reliable as a bmw, also as comfortable. I plan on riding to washington quite often, and also plan on riding to alaska. Are the KLR's decent for long hours riding?
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  7. 3Rrr

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    My guess (from not actually owning one myself) is that trips to Washington would be doable with an AirHawk seat cushion (which you could use, and would need on a 800GS), front sprocket change for lower hwy rpm's, and a possible windscreen swap for a taller unit.
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  8. Scubalong

    Scubalong Been here awhile

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    + 1 to all the above
    What about the V Strom, they seem to be more road worthy and occasional fun on dirt.:evil Raymond one of the inmate here took the bike to SA and back no problem.
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  9. Full Power

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    What do you consider LONG riding ?
    Yes, the KLR650 is up to the task.
    I rode one with the stock seat to Deadhorse, Alaska in 30 hours.
    return trip in 28 hours.
    6 Gallon fuel tank gives an easy 300 mile range.
    A great, simple, inexpensive Do-Everything bike, I would not hesitate to ride to Alaska on any vintage KLR.
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  10. The Island

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    I had 90,000km on my 650 vstrom before I sold it. Great bike! I beat the living crap out of it too. It would be able to do what you wanted... Cheap to repair and easy to learn on for the DIYer. I never had a problem with mine - not ONE.
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  11. runnin4melife

    runnin4melife Been here awhile

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    I second everyone's comments on getting a nice KLX/R, they are great intro bikes that won't break the bank/leave you indebted for a long time. I own my bike and many people do as well (no payments) and the last thing you want is a new bike, payments, high insurance premiums and then to dump it (BMWs aren't cheap and don't crash that well).

    I feel your pain and pined over a BMW for years...... Not joking took me 12 years before I bought one, albeit I am only 31 that was a long time to wait but I wanted to do it right and I have been on bikes before I was completely potty trained... or so my mom says.
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  12. chris73

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    The first street legal bike I ever bought was a 2013 f800gs. It's sweet. Buy what you want. and make sure you can afford it. I did ride dirt bikes for several years as a kid though, so I knew how to ride a bit.
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  13. TowPro

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    I also would recommend putting a couple years on a KLR or Vstrom.
    Insurance becomes a lot less money after you got some time under your belt.
    And at 18, do you really want to be tied into the purchase price of a BMW? your priorities will change and you might want something different next month/year.

    I recall when I was 18, I had no fear (which means I would tear up the BMW) and I had no wallet (which means I could not afford to fix the BMW after I tore it up).
    At 18 I had a Yahama XT225. I rode that thing everywhere. I even used to put the old boyscout backpack on with camping gear and would make trips on it.
    Still wish I had a bike like that at times (still wish I had the lower weight I had when I was 18)

    these KLR's they are talking about here are not old junkers. Craigs list is always full of 2-3 year old bikes with very low miles. For sale by guys who fell in love with this website, then decided they really don't have the time to ride motorcycles.
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  14. acap650

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    IMO think about the difference, 4K for used KLR, DR or DL vs. 14K for new BMW. Also don't forget service, unless you are technically very proficient you will need more $$ BMW service. The Japanese bikes are much simpler to service and part of the ADV experience involves learning about and working on your bike.

    With the money you save you could invest in rider training as well. It pays off much more than investing in the bike.
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    All the above suggestions/observations are valid.
    You need to have the mind set that you WILL fall and WILL spend $$ for fixing :D
    It is whether you want to growth with the bike or start with a smaller bike and grow into your dream bike.....
    $$ involved either way, you will have a good time regardless.
    Good luck.
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  16. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice Fights for old DC

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    Greetings.

    I'm fixing to pull purchase a adventure ride this late fall for some touring in 14.

    For a while I wanted to get a high tech/ high performance MC, but decided the most logical thing would be a used 1st gen KLR, or a brand new DR650se. I'm just 163lbs, and 5'-8"

    The advantages of buying used:
    1. if you do not like it, you can sale it and lose only a little bit of money.
    2. you have a good comparision for a single cyclinder vs a twin, or a more high performing MC.
    3. Not that big of a deal if you drop the bike.
    4. You may actually like the bike!
    5. initial savings can be invested else where.
    6. You get to learn the fundamentals on basic MC up keep.

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    Try and study up on all of the differnt types of MCs that are out there. This will give you a good idea of the bikes you are looking at.
    For example, compare and contrast the base G650GS with the new R1200GS. Compare weight/power/value. Youtube is a great tool for consumers. :clap

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    With the BM. It things go well, your're good. If bads things start happening, you're not good.
    The KLR is more of a stable bike. The high performance is not there, but the abillity to trouble shot and maintain the bike at an afordable price is there. So there is the balance.
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    But, you should do what makes you feel good.
    Go on youtube and check out Awesome Players. the F800GS is a great bike!:evil

    There are tons of KLR videos on-line. Many of them are of great help.

    Good luck in your selection.
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  17. Young Adventurer

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    I guess you could say tank to tank.. Ill ride till i need to fill up and take a break at that point, eat something, stretch.

    Can you estimate how much gas money was for the alaska trip?
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  18. Young Adventurer

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    I definitely heard that! The insurance on my sport bike is $65. I would hate to have to pay over $100.

    And i dont know how you waited 12 years! I do love the BMW's but i think the KLR will be best for me, i plan on getting a used one.
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  19. Young Adventurer

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    I wouldnt tear up the bmw! I mean it wouldnt be sitting in the garage for weeks with no use, i dont have any other vehicle so it would be everyday use. had to ride in the pouring rain yesterday, not much fun but colorado doesnt get much rain so it wasnt too bad.

    Also i do plan on getting a KLR, thanks to the people on here who really changed my thoughts. I love the idea of the KLR so much more, i will probably invest a lot of upgrades into it and i'm stoked!
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  20. Young Adventurer

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    Where to on your adventure? Cant wait to get out and be free even if only for a weekend, haha

    I do lots of studying on the bikes, i did hours on the bmw's and had it in my head that i was gonna get one, but it would be better to get a used KLR for the reasons above! People say 85mph is too slow, i dont understand that.. i never go past 85 on my sport bike when i could go 100 easily. Maybe its different on a dual sport?
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