Need help! Problem with Big GS. Mexico

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Veter, Dec 29, 2012.

  1. rdwalker

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    From your last note it sounds like it's more than poor reassembly. Sorry about that - hopefully you'll manage to nurse the bike into a dealership.
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  2. MikeMike

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    I replied on the Horizons Unlimited thread.
    Call Elena at Motorrad Mexico and explain where you took the bike for service.
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  3. gsweave

    gsweave Yinz, blinkers are on, since 05

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    Veter,

    just hoping you made Cancun.

    Did you have time to check clutch fluid level??

    weave
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  4. firstwordisee

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    Pemex generally sucks.
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  5. MikeMike

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    How much experience do you actually have with Pemex fuels or are you talking out of your ass?
    I' ve got about 20 years experience with the current blends and have never had a problem.
    Now, take a look at the issues BMW and Harley owners have had with US blends and additives.
    By the way, a huge amount of Pemex fuel is produced with exported Pemex crude in the USA but without the additives and is sent back to Mexico.
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  6. PirateJohn

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    Yeah, I was going to say that for the last decade or so Pemex usually has better gasoline and diesel than what we can get in south Texas. I had a stale batch of gasoline in my RV and had a hellacious time getting the motor and generator running before I dumped a ton of additive in it last month, and some of the guys that were on a site with me a few weeks ago had their diesel generator get gummy and shut off one cold night.

    Never have gasoline problems in Tamaulipas other than border Pemex gasoline isn't the bargain that it is in some other parts of Mexico.
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  7. firstwordisee

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    Dont want to highjack this thread, but yes, living just a few miles from the border I have a lot of experience with Pemex, I am sure the fuel itself is ok (besides the fact that it stinks and pollutes) but the delivery systems and storage is less than reliable (at least in Baja). I got fuel with water in it on at least two trips in deep Baja. I will leave it at that. "Generally Sucks" was probably the wrong choice of words.
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  8. rdwalker

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    Ouch, ouch! No fighting!

    But you are right. I was running for 2 weeks on a generator here at home (after Sandy) and the thing finally died. Drained milky crap from fuel tank. Luckily, power was restored soon thereafter.

    One thing we have going for us in modern cars and modern bikes is fuel injection. Higher pressures and larger orifices make the engines less sensitive to crap in fuel.

    Thanks for joining the thread and helping out.
    I don't know where Veter is right now - it seemed that he was on the road trying to nurse the bike to Cancun. You may want to both PM and email him with the Motorrad contact numbers in case his Internet access is not too swift.

    Everyone: thanks for helping a fellow inmate. May you have a wonderful New Year!
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  9. MikeMike

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    I think if he can get Motorrad Mexico working for him at the corporate level here via Elena, he could stand a better chance of having things taken care of.
    Tomorrow, I hope I can get a valid reference for an independent shop in that area if he still wants to try that.
    Motorrad has a way of making one shop take care of problems arising from another shop.
    It sounds almost like it is running in limp home mode.
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  10. Veter

    Veter Motoviajero

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    Sorry for a late reply, I didn't have internet connection. I made it to Cancun, but it seems those guys don't work today as they don't pick up the phone.

    I will try to change spark plugs myself as was advised in the HUBB thread and see what happens.



    Many thanks for your priceless help everyone and Happy New Year! :thumb
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  11. Murkidi

    Murkidi R1100GS adict

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    hi Veter, what you discribe at the bigginig of the thread sound veri familiar to me , I live in venezuela and like in mexico some gas station on the road have water and some kind of jelly mud on the tanks , in central and suoth america except from chile never but NEVER pour gas to your bike if you see a fuel truck discharging fuel to the gas station tanks because the tanks are all turbulent or mix up .

    I have seem here in my contry that fault in many 1200 and 1150 and 1100, but the ones that suffer the most are the 1200 because the electronic, check the bottom of your tank with a plastic hose to see if the fuel is not cristal clear (you know unleaded fuel has some kind of yellowish color but always clear) if that is your problem you have to remove the tank and empty it and clean it also the mesh filter at the end of the pump.

    that problem didnt start at mexico df other wise you had turn back to the dealer imediatly tha t for sure happen on the road after a night rest and all the dirt and water settle to the bottom of the tank where the mesh filter is.

    one last advise , when you are on the road and your bike is running ok dont mess with it, just chage the oil

    have a safe ride and FELIZ AÑO !!!! HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!! :freaky

    sorry for my english!!

    manuel...
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  12. Veter

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    Manuel, thanks for your advise!

    I decided to take the bike to Cancun dealer today. New spark plugs didn't help
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  13. MikeMike

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    Call Elena at Motorrad from the dealer in Cancun as soon as you take it in. They should place the call for you.
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  14. Veter

    Veter Motoviajero

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    Spoke to officials, they promised to follow up. Cancun dealer says that the problem is with the clutch only and that imho doesn't explain why the engine stalls and all the rest. Those guys want more than $1000 to fix it, do you think it is fair price?

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  15. Mudcat

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    What do they want to do too the clutch?
    Your clutch is not releasing?
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    Did all of your problems start as you left the dealer in <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:smarttags" /><st1:City><st1:place>Mexico City</st1:place></st1:City> or did you fill up with fuel and then have problems?

    BTW what year bike is this?
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  16. WoodButcher

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    They have brake fluid listed on that estimate. The 1200 uses mineral oil not brake fluid in the clutch. Might want to follow up on that. Clutch mc and slave won't like the brake fluid.
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  17. Shango

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    Does sound like a clutch issue. I'm not sure the exact way this setup is but it could be a stuck, bent or jammed pushrod, the disc may have failed and is fouling up the clutch pack, possibly a damaged diaphram spring. All that would make the clutch feel hard and always grabbing. This would cause running issue as the bike is now idling under load that changes as stuff moves around in there. Ecm cant seem to figure that one out.
    You said that you "steamed" the clutch in the mountains. I'm not sure what that means exactly in this context but that may have been the start.
    Anyone correct me if im wrong but thats about a $2000 repair bill in the USA. For the amount of work involved the bill is very fair but hopefully they open her up and see something cheap and stupid is the real issue!
    Good luck and I'll be watching for an update!
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  18. MikeMike

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    Keep pushing with Motorrad Mexico head office, especially since the Mexico City dealer did work on your clutch. The final bill is going to be over $1,200 US at current exchange rates here.
    Motorrad should cover either parts or labor via a goodwill gesture.
    But you are going to have to keep after them.
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  19. Veter

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    Thanks everyone, I will be working with both service center and Motorrad Mexico and will post the updates here

    Mudcat,

    I think they still don't have clear understanding as they didn't separate the engine from the gearbox. The problems started in Mexico City dealer's place, but they told me that it should be OK and I was in a serious rush to get to the pyramids by Dec 21 :) I don't know hat exactly they did but I asked the dealer to check the clutch which was done and they told me that it was fine. Bike is 2011


    Shango ,

    By "steamed" I mean that there was a lot of steam/vapour coming from the clutch (supposedly)
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  20. MikeMike

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    Hey, that's good news if Motorrad will do something for you. The bike should still be under warranty!:clap
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