Need new printer....are they all horrible?

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  1. BHW

    BHW Long timer

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    My 2 year old Kodak is heading to the dumpster. I, like many others, fell for the "cheaper ink cartridges" gimmick. Only to find out later, that the ink cartridges are chipped and will "run out of ink" long before they actually run out of ink. Many times almost new cartridges will say they are empty, even if they are over half full. Kodak figured out how to royally screw people, and now it looks like all of the printer companies are doing the same thing.

    I'm not buying any more Kodak cartridges. It's now telling me it's out of color, and when this happens, it disables the printer from printing, even in just black text. It also disables the scanner, etc. There are class action lawsuits over this.

    I need a new printer. But it sickens me to buy one, and have to deal with the $30 ink cartridges that are all now chipped to "run dry" based on time, not actual ink usage.

    Recommendations? Looks like they've killed the "refill your own" unless you buy new chips or a chip resetting tool
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  2. boredom

    boredom Been here awhile

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    If you don't need color, get an old HP LaserJet off of eBay or Craigslist. I got my LaserJet 1120 for free, and all it needed was a roller set and a new toner cartridge ($60 in total.) Any quality laser printer has a toner cartridge good for at least 1500 pages; my last cartridge went over 3000 before it ran out (versus 150-200 pages of most injet cartridges.) Not to mention how the bigger laser printers are easily repaired when the fuser and rollers wear out. My last job still had some LaserJet 4L's from the early 90's kicking around with diagnostic printouts that said they'd printed millions of pages.

    If you have to get an inkjet for color photos or whatever, get an HP Photosmart series; I've had the least amount of headaches with them. Kodak and Lexmark printers are awful. Brothers are okay, but I've had issues with their inkjets clogging the ink nozzles if you let it sit for more than a week or two.

    ymmv
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  3. 68deluxe

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    I have an HP all in one deskjet, I bought it for @160 3 years ago and must have spent double that in ink. Several times it has just quit printing black ink, gonna get a new printer tomorrow.
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  4. eric1514

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    I have a wireless Epson Workhorse 630 that was cheap but has been very steady for a couple of years now. I don't use it a lot so I'm always happy when I send it something to do and it wakes up and prints it well with no drama. It can print photos but I never do.

    Ran out of black once and it faked it by using other colors, but when I ran out of magenta too, it quit. Costco refilled all 4 cartridges for about $9 each. The printer knew I didn't buy new, told me it was going to do a shitty job from now on and was protesting by not telling me anymore about ink levels, but they were idle threats. Everything works just like it always has.

    I'd buy another Epson.
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  5. DriveShaft

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    Laserjet (or similar) is personally what I'd recommend if the vast majority of what you print is document related as opposed to images. I go to a store to print my images, and handle my docs at home, whethe rthey're color or not. toner might be expensive, but dang it lasts forever compared to inkjet (or simlar)

    If your house is like mine, get one that's network compatible, so you can serve it over your wireless network as opposed to having to be tethered to it.
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  6. Cbody

    Cbody pretentious redneck

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    +1
    No drama is exactly what I've experienced as well, my 310 workforce has performed flawlessly for 4 years. After fighting other brands since the early 90's this was refreshing. Bought my parents one as well (in their 80's) and after 2 years I've rarely had to "fix" it other than replacing ink (rarely).
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  7. forrestlaw

    forrestlaw Been here awhile

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    +1 for laser

    inkjet is crap as the ink dries up and gets "used up" even if you don't use it. We bought an HP color laser all-in-one a while ago and really like it. Plus, laser will not run, streak, or smear if you accidentally drip condensation from your drink on it.

    We print alot of color and use a scanner/copier quite frequently, but if you are just printing documents a laser printer can be had cheap. The toner will undoubtably cost more than an inkjet cart, but will last way longer.
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  8. 68deluxe

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    I am gonna stick with cable. Trying to cut down on the stuff broadcast over the wireless. Never know when a WIFI crook will move in next door.
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  9. troidus

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    +1 on color laser. See if you can pick one up from a business liquidation, CL, or eBay. I'm fond of HP, because parts and toner are available just about anywhere. Ink is very, very expensive.

    If you end up with one of the big color lasers (5500 or similar), beware that a full set of cartridges will cost you $1200. It's still cheaper than ink, though.
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  10. Tweaker

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    Epson Workforce 845, the thing is incredible for small office stuff and does produce finer colors. Except I found out the hard way Epson uses a finer print head and it is more prone to clogging in a big way if you don't use it enough. Mine is less than a year old and it will not fully clean. 2 sets of cartridges have run through it, both Epson.
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  11. barnyard

    barnyard Verbal tactician Super Moderator

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    Laser printers are the bomb. Fast and the per page cost is dirt cheap. I used an Apple Laserwriter 360 for over 15 years. I have an ethernet bridge for it, but am pretty sure that I know longer have a machine with appletalk to plug it into.
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  12. slackmeyer

    slackmeyer Don't mean sheeit. .

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    +whatever for laser printer. I got pissed with my Canon printer refusing to print even when full of ink (not Canon branded), or refusing to print black and white documents because the yellow ink had dried up. Went to a black and white laser all in one printer, the ink never dries up, it prints fast, and looks good. I can get photos printed by sending them to a local store and picking them up there, it's cheaper and better quality than I could do at home anyway.
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  13. rustycager

    rustycager Been here awhile

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    Another vote for laser. Got a free huge office desk sized print/scan/fax with new toner and roller that was a couple years old. If I run out of toner it's about $35 for generic and should last another 8000 pages.

    Mind you it only does black and wasn't cheap new.
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  14. BerndM

    BerndM Shiftless One

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    I just bought and really like my new Canon MX922 all in one including fax.
    It does a superb job on duplex printing and the color photos are as good as what you'd get at a photolab.
    Costco about $120
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  15. Donkey Hotey

    Donkey Hotey De Jo Momma

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    I'll just chime in my dissatisfaction with everything HP. My mom has owned two of their scanners and at least three of their printers. I was given one of their all-in-one printer (laser) / scanners as a Christmas gift. I don't have any problem with the hardware, it's the software that sucks ass.

    The drivers are bloatware from hell and they were CONSTANTLY sucking CPU cycles, waiting for the day that I might press that little blue SCAN button on the device. NOW? HOW ABOUT NOW? DO YOU WANT ME TO SCAN NOW? NOW? NOW? NO! I'm fucking surfing the internet! Simmer the goddam fuck down!! Nope, the drivers would not stop. The fans on my laptop would run continuously from those fucking drivers.

    So I uninstalled everything and just reloaded the very basic print driver. I've never used the scanner. It's an expensive fax machine, copier and laser printer now. I refuse to deal with their shitty software. My mom's computer was no different but--being a desktop--the CPU usage wasn't as apparent as my laptop stoking the coals to keep up.
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  16. Maritimer

    Maritimer Bikeless Adventurer

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    +12 on the laser path. We have an old B&W HP Laserjet 1320 duplex printer that has been flawless from day 1. It's probably 8 years old and hasn't missed a beat. We also have a newer Canon multifunction 4500 series that we've had for a couple of years. Cartridges are $120-ish and last a couple thousand pages.

    My wife was a part time student for years and was print heavy. We we're involved in a legal case for awhile and did a lot of printing for that.

    And +1 on the photo printer for photos. Pick what you like for that.
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  17. trailer Rails

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    I have had a HP8600 for about a year now. I am happy with it. I really like the AirPrint feature. From my iphone or ipad, I can wirelessly print. Maybe my opinion of HP will change in a couple years.
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  18. sailah

    sailah Lampin' it

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    I have two. A duplex HP laser printer that does most of the work and a Epson all in one inkjet that I use mainly for scanning and since it's wireless I can print from my iPad etc.

    When I want to print photos I do that online and get them in the mail. The laser has maybe 75000 pages through it and works perfectly. Toner seems to last about 7500 pages and I get them for $20 through a university hookup.
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  19. MookieBlaylock

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    we have an excellent b&w Brother laser that was inexpensive and is inexpensive to run. It makes me cringe to think how much was wasted with ink jet over the years.
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  20. josjor

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    This. Plus the fact that at home we rarely print anything and the inkjets were always crapping out from drying out.

    My Brother at the shop gets the crap used out of it. It was about $100.00 a couple years ago and we go through about 1.5 toner cartridges a year. Peanuts and it works. It works. That's the key point.
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