Nelson rideouts

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  1. bikemoto

    bikemoto Tyre critic

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    I'll get the bbq fired up about 5:30pm to feed the wee lad before it gets too late, so anytime from then on.
  2. bikemoto

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    As well as the sag, how's the length of the new shock? If it is shorter than the old one, it'll make the rear of the bike squat. Or if it has a weaker spring and/or less preload. Or less compression damping and/or too much rebound, so it is being pushed/held through it's stroke more.

    It's very common with replacement shocks that have actual rebound damping for people to dial in too much. Dr Robert says set it up so it feels good, and then back it off 2 clicks, because you'll ALWAYS try to run too much. Too much makes it pack down over successive bumps. On a static push it, on rebound it should overshoot just once and then settle... roughly.

    The extra front tyre tread depth may rake out the front a little, but I wouldn't have thought it would make that much difference. Depends on the difference between the two tyres, but I'd suspect the shock more.

    Could very well be the improved rear action affecting things. Two ways: more speed as you say, or that the rear end is not right but you are noticing the front. The rear is beefier than the forks which are also connected via a hinge, so often rear-end problems present at the front (e.g. headshake caused by worn swingarm/shock linkage bearings).
  3. innathyzit

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    Good info WW, If I get to the shed night tomorrow we could have a play with the rear shocky. It has no dampening adjustment being a Ricor so that should make things easier. No set up instructions came with it or are available on their site which is a little annoying. I ordered the strongest spring available and the raising links are still fitted as I like ground clearance. 15% static and 30% rider is about what it should be as a rough guide apparently. One thing I have noticed with this shocky is when the bike comes off its stand and the bikes weight comes on the shock the bike slowly gently squats down. is this normal?
  4. ztaj

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    Hmmmmm....interesting. I raised the forks. The caps were level with the triple clamp, they now sit 15 mm proud. The GS is known to feel a little light in the front end I think.
    It could also be a confidence thing, any little twitch has me backing off the gas these days.
    See you tonight. :D
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    ztaj jatz

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    Well...... After much measuring, re measuring, and faffing about.... It feels o.k. in a straight line and is nice to ride (but it was anyway :D ) I have noticed the cornering has gone back to being a bit vague and wobbly, kinda like the rider.
    I'll pick up my tool box tomorrow so I can start ripping things apart after that.
    It was good to catch up WW and CooneyR, and I learnt a thing or two. And have a solid baseline to work from with the shocks
  6. bikemoto

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    Given that everything you are doing to make it feel better is actually going against the theoretical ideal - backed-up by our sag findings - I suspect that you are fighting the design of the bike.

    My experience with the GS range is the same. They feel like cruisers not MXers or sprotbikes. The front is all the way out there, doing its own thing, with a big disconnect to the rider, comparatively. Long-term GS riders probably get used to it, and develop a feel for it.

    I hired an R1150GS for 10 days a few years ago; it was enough to put me right off them (that wasn't the only issue though).
  7. bikemoto

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    Anyone partaking in the racing, apart from me? I now have a tow bar on the work chariot so I'm good to go anytime, anywhere. :D Happy to give anyone a lift, but I'm working in Blenheim on Mondays so will stay there after the Marlborough races.

    XC2 at Ward, Sunday 30th June
    Enduro at Hira, Saturday 6th July
    Endurocross at Tadmor, Sunday 7th July
    XC3 at Marlborough, Saturday 20th July
    XC4 at Tadmor, Sunday 4th August

    I had the forks re-valved before the first race; they are so stunningly good I can't fault them yet.

    The shock has been re-worked over the last couple of days and is winging its way back to me overnight. It will be very interesting to see how it handles. At speed it was bloody terrible compared to the improved forks: it was totally out of control. Mind you, I was probably hitting things harder and faster with a front end that was up to the task. It'll have a new spring (probably too heavy but better than the progressive that was on there) and also will drop the wheel travel by 20mm which will help the stand-over height. Can't wait to to try it!
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    Jen is talking about having a shed night at her place sometime soon-ish. Who's up for that?
  9. innathyzit

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    Shed night sounds ok..........
  10. NordieBoy

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    Need some helpers for the enduro.

    Any takers?
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    What do we have to do? and when is it?
  12. Padmei

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    was it only a year ago?
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    NordieBoy Armature speller

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    Not much riding involved dammit. You need to sit at a check point, all toasty warm, and have hot coffee feed to you all day.

    No wait, that's me. You have to stand out in the rain and snow, eating cold gruel.
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    Oh, and it's on the 6th, up in Hira.
  15. Padmei

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    Man it's so nice here now the riffraff have been banned from here.
    Quite pleasant atmosphere without all that DR this & DR that.
    :lol3
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    Box'a'bits In need of repair

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    I've briefly thought about putting some 705's onto Gus. Anyone have an opinion? Anyone?
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    Shinko 705s, never had them, apparently make you crash a lot.

    Should I buy a DR?

    Why don't trials bikes run knobblies?

    Padmei, have you ever got lost while riding?
  18. Padmei

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    as a matter of fact one of my customers has a whole container full of Shinko 705s. he' doesn't know what to do with them & was going to dump them. he was asking me if I knew anyonw who wanted them - someone local, living close in Nelson city.
    He also had a hotted up DR650 motor with full custom bling stuff & a spiffy frame ready with camera mounts attached all over it.
    the only people I know on adv rider aren't into that kinda stuff... oh well I guess off to the dump with it all....:cry
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    I kinda miss that funny lil guy?
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    What funny little guy???