1. ThomasVolomitz

    ThomasVolomitz New Old Stock

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    He didn't hurt himself but he may have a heart attack as the choke lever is broken and it takes about 322 kicks to get it going on a cold day.
  2. mgorman

    mgorman Crashing since 1964

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    Lay it over until it dribbles gas a few seconds then try.

    Bing carbs didn't have chokes, just tickle (flood) buttons to hold the float open to flood the motor
  3. ScienceOfDirt

    ScienceOfDirt U-Boat Rider

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    What kind of penetrant have you got to work with aluminum? :ear I've never had kroil, pb-blaster, or anything else I've tried work when anything non ferrous was involved.
  4. Mikey Ray

    Mikey Ray n00b

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    I can try that. I didn't hurt myself and its not that bad to start. It just seems like any throttle input kills it and it does take a few (dozen) kicks to start. After the first start of the day though its fine, one or two kicks and its running. I always hold the kicker all the way down after a kick till it either starts or stops turning though. I don't know if It's true or not but my dad told me this will help prevent being kicked back.
  5. Danjal

    Danjal Insert wit here.

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    All of the above and a 20 pound sledge for backup. The bolt is ferrous.
  6. hateithere

    hateithere anytime now

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    When I had mine the starting procedure was De-comp to the top of the stroke, no gas choke, one nice kick and it would usually fire right up, any gas an I just let it sit for 10 minutes.I'm not sure i'd hold it all the way down, that's a lot of force coming back up.A good running xl should start fairly easily
  7. mgorman

    mgorman Crashing since 1964

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    Without the choke in this weather it's had to tell but there is a chance that it is lean on the bottom, most XR's are. Maybe next time see you, we can adjust the fuel screw/idle.
  8. Mikey Ray

    Mikey Ray n00b

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    Mucho Gracias.:nod:nod:nod:nod
  9. Mikey Ray

    Mikey Ray n00b

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    Pretty much this but the choke lever is busted. The kid I bought it from Got it from his uncle and probably didn't put a single cent back in to it. Both tires were trash oil was black ect. I have new tires,oil,handgaurds and bar risers on it. One thing at a time.:D Oh yeah and I guess if you give a firm kick and hold er down that reduces kickback? Just advice from dad, he used to ride quite a bit but did have a Triumph kick his knee out requiring surgery so who knows.
  10. mgorman

    mgorman Crashing since 1964

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    Just remember, if your knee is locked out at the bottom of the stroke and it kicks back, the force has to go somewhere and if your knee is straight, oops. At least if it is bent a little you'll either smash your knee on the handlebar or your chin.
  11. ThomasVolomitz

    ThomasVolomitz New Old Stock

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  12. rxcrider

    rxcrider Long timer

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    What dremel bit do you have that will do this? Their little carbide ones I've tried never seem to last long enough for a job of this nature. The bolt is broken off below flush, so a cut off wheel won't work.

    Matt - I don't know if Ed center punched it first, but he was trying to drill it in the frame to get the exhaust off so he could pull the head. Between the down tube of the frame and the header, he didn't really have a chance of drilling straight. I'm sure he now realizes he would have been better off using a bigger drill bit to remove the head and then dealing with the remaining stud afterwards, but hindsight is how we get experience. Or at least it is how I get most of mine. Looks kind of like this :y0! :muutt :huh :scratch :fight :bash :kboom :cry :baldy :norton
  13. Danjal

    Danjal Insert wit here.

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    Tc bits. Slow em down and use oil. Heat seems to kill them. At this point he can use a drill bit for most of it then finish with the dremel. The main point is to get gap in there so the metal has room to be moved inward off the threads. He could cheat and just drill and retap into a sae size too. Probably faster too.
  14. muddyrabbit

    muddyrabbit Lost Boy

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    Now that the engine is out and there is room to work, why not try drilling for an easy out again? Without the frame and header pipe in the way you should have a much better chance of success. Start with a punch/drift to center the hole, then drill slow.
  15. rxcrider

    rxcrider Long timer

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    slow and oil - will do next time I have need to use one. I was treating them like the larger ones I have for the die grinder. Guess they didn't like WOT & dry.
  16. edhead

    edhead Been here awhile

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    Fosnaught Auto in North Canton succuessfully extracted my broken exhaust bolt. Price was $42.50, which seems like a fair price to me.

    So you all can go back to your regularlly scheduled ADV programming. I'll see what else I can muck up during the reassembling process.

    Thanks for all the ideas, I enjoy hearing people's solutions to problems.
  17. rxcrider

    rxcrider Long timer

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    Ed, are you using a helicoil / insert or re-using the existing threads in the head?
  18. edhead

    edhead Been here awhile

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    Haven't picked it up, but I am pretty sure there is no helicoil.

    Find out tomorrow exactly what was done.
  19. mgorman

    mgorman Crashing since 1964

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  20. ThomasVolomitz

    ThomasVolomitz New Old Stock

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    Europe is full of old adventure bikes, not so here. Going to go place a new tag and see is my waterproof gear is actually what it says.