Never ending super duper which chain lube merged threadfest

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Steverino, Oct 1, 2002.

  1. Steverino

    Steverino Arrogant Horse's Ass #1

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    What kind of lube you using? (On the chain sickos :eek2)
    I am using a wax based and am not happy with how loud the drive line noise is. Don't want anything really gunky though. Any advice?
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  2. PhilSpace

    PhilSpace The Gov Administrator

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    PJ1 Blue rocks. I tried the wax recommended in MCN - sucked and also used PJ1 Black - really sucks - way to much thrown off.

    I now use a chain cleaner which also doubles as an application guide for chain lube. You put it on (minus the brushes inside), hook up a can of chain lube, spin the wheel and push the spray button on the can. It has two holes in side on top in just the right place and puts the lube where it needs to be with no splatter in one pass. I have had very minimal throw off with the blue, just changed the oil, and when I pulled the sprocket cover it was almost clean after 800 miles and there was nothing on the rim.


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    I bought mine at Morton's, but found it here as well

    PS - The cleaner that comes with it is incredible, but where gloves and don't let the tree huggers see you. It has Diethylene glycol monobutyl ether and soduim trypolyphosphate - kick as shit. I normally use kerosene, but this shit blew that away - don't know about residue.
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  3. daotoys1

    daotoys1 Long timer

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    What is the best/CLEANEST chain lube out there???

    For street use???

    For off road use???

    And how often are you guys lubing??? :ear :ear :ear
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  4. daotoys1

    daotoys1 Long timer

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    What is the best/CLEANEST chain lube out there???

    For street use???

    For off road use???

    And how often are you guys lubing??? :ear :ear :ear
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  5. Flanny

    Flanny Flanny-it-up!

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    Bel-Ray Super Clean. Stick well, lasts long, dries fast. I'm not easilly impressed by chain-lubes (most of them suck), but this one is the cat's pijama's

    I lube after every washing, and usually every couple-a-rides depending on how clean the chain is.
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  6. racer

    racer Long timer

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    I have used Chain Wax in the past with fairly good results. After application to a warm chain it dries and leaves a non sticky surface that won't pick up dirt. However, I've resorted to using gear oil on my KLR. It gets dirty but who cares and its cheap.

    Now a bigger question, with a good O-ring chain why put anything on it at all? The grease is inside on the pins where it needs to be. I don't see any wear issues with a chain rollers meshing and unmeshing on sprockets. I'd like to know how many out there use no chain lube at all (you BMW guys need not reply) Also what has been your chain life and sprocket life with the lube. I'm betting no lube doesn't significantly reduce the life of chains and sprockets.
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  7. woodsrider

    woodsrider .........................

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    How about WD-40, or maybe Windex -- no, how about Lemon Pledge furniture polish??!! :D

    Seriously, after running O-Ring chains for over 20 years, one of the best/cleanest lubes that I have found is Honda HP Red (the can is red). It goes on in a liquid state, and doesn't gum up like some heavier lubes. Give it a try.
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  8. DMZ

    DMZ Castor Bean Addict

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    WD-40 after every ride or every 200 miles on long trips. Dirt or street.
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  9. Cat0020

    Cat0020 El cheapo

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    I use WD40 to clean the chain, after the chain is dry of WD40 then I apply whatever chain lube I have available, usually the blue stuff is good for road application, dry off-road you probably want teflon based lube, muddy condition, I just clean the chain after every ride.
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  10. hk_rider

    hk_rider Urban Adventurer

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    i'm with this guy...wash bike...clean chain w/wd40...go for a ride and warm up the chain, lube with PJ-1 Blue...allow it to dry properly before riding again and fling-off should be minimal.

    i ride mostly on the street. frequency for me is about every 4-600 miles.
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  11. Arch

    Arch Incurable Gearhead

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    Threads merged (most of them anyway). Folks, please don't post the same question in multiple forums. Thanks!
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  12. markjenn

    markjenn Long timer

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    For o-ring chains, I go with a cleaning with WD40 and then a dribble of 90W gear oil. Wipe off excess. On a street bike, do it every 2K or so. On a dirt bike, before every ride. With this regimen, I seldom have to adjust a chain, let alone replace one.

    I've never met a aerosol chain lube yet that doesn't make a god-awful mess.

    - Mark
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  13. Ergo

    Ergo Been here awhile

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    Great post! I had no idea they offered "clean" chain lubes. :evil

    I'm always adding some lube on the inside of my o-ring chains. Metal to metal isn't good. Dirt makes it worse. It's a sickness. :nod
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  14. chain

    chain Long timer

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    absolutely agree
    and if that is not available Ive recently aquired a taste for PBR

    cheers
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  15. Katoum

    Katoum Adventurer

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    Bel-Ray keeps the rear wheel pretty clean, but wait till you remove the countershaft sprocket guard and see that grease accumulation, its like someone packed the front sprocket with a grease gun, but that's just MHO. I have had better luck with the Maxima chain wax as it also sticks well, evaporates quickly, and does not build up nearly the much on the countershaft area. It also migrates to side plates better without having to spray directly on the side, thus I feel offers better corrosion resistance than the Bel-Ray. I find that spraying the O rings and side plates with Bel-Ray results also in coating the swing arm, floor, and just about everthing else in the vicinty. I guess that's why there are so many brands out there. :wink:

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  16. Katoum

    Katoum Adventurer

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    Whats wrong with Lemon Pledge, :thumb when you are waxing the bike the overspray takes care of the chain. :D
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  17. wadventure

    wadventure Mellow Adventurer

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    I just gave up on PJ1, what a mess!

    Over the years I accumulated about 4 large cans of WD40, looks like I'll be using that for awhile. After a couple hundred miles, the chain isn't sagging yet. And, everything is getting clean!
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  18. woodsrider

    woodsrider .........................

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    Katoum, I like your style!

    Y'all try that Honda HP in the red can -- it's much less gummy than Maxima Chain Wax, Bel Ray Super Clean, etc. Most 950 riding is done on either streets, fireroads or "mild" singletrack. With the absence of major league mud, gumbo and slop, the lighter lubes (e.g., HP red) are the way to go -- especially in dry, dusty conditions.
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  19. murgatroid42

    murgatroid42 Great Adventurer

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    I used to use PJ-1 on my street bikes, but it was messy. I use Honda HP (the red can) as others mentioned. It is far cleaner than I expected. Not cheap (Honda product), but try it, you'll like it. If not, post your complaint. :evil
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  20. xtphreak

    xtphreak from B4 "adventure bikes"

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    on my XT600 I use BelRay (whatever the white kind is) ... used it for decades on everything

    that snotty looking other Belray SUX dirtballs

    wish the cans were more distinct, tho

    clean w/ kerosene and a brush ... lube every 500-600 miles ... or when the shifts start to feel funny

    muddy rides after the ride

    yeah o-ring chains have grease in 'em to start, ever watch the lube go into th rollers when you spray??? it ain't there forever
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