New 2012 Honda NC700X 700cc Parallel Twin!

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Two Plugs, Sep 27, 2011.

  1. rowdymoose

    rowdymoose Carpe Diem-seize the carp

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    Can you describe what type of riding he wants to do? I know a lot of people knock scooters, but (having just ridden one for the past year) I love them. If he just wants to learn about the sport, no matter what capabilities one has (physical disability to Olympic athletes) I'd always recommend starting smaller & cheaper then working your way up. Good thing about smaller bikes is that they are more forgiving to beginner mistakes, and with them being cheaper, you can usually get close to your money back for them when you want to/are ready to move up to a larger, more powerful bike.

    We all want to bypass crawling and go straight to walking/running, but dropping a $2k scooter on it's side is a lot easier to stomach vs a $7-8k new bike. Just my $.02. I do applaud him for not letting his disability limit him!
  2. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    +1 for Integra (even if he doesn't do scooters).
  3. rowdymoose

    rowdymoose Carpe Diem-seize the carp

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    Meant to include in my post that my scooter was the SYM HD200. Unless he is planning on doing a ton of hwy riding, this scooter took my 6'1" 250lb body up to about 70mph with no problem. I bought a "new" 2008 model for $2500 and sold it a year later for $2200. Only reason I traded in for a bigger bike is that my new job has me going on interstate for about 60 miles, each way, a couple times a month and I didn't want to run WOT that much.

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  4. Fuzzy74

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    Need to understand that maxi-scooters are not what most people think of with the term scooter. Engine sizes up to 800cc and speeds well over 100mph and come with comfort for all day riding. They are suitable for freeways or mountain twisties. BMW just came out with a couple great ones. Yamaha T-Max, Honda Silver Wing and Suzuki Bergman are all serious rides. Most modern scooters are automatic with rear brake by left hand. They will run with the big bikes most anywhere.

    I have ridden 85,000 miles on a couple of MP3s. Few 2 wheel bikes can keep up with my 400 cc on twisty roads. It is a great ride but don't let the 2 front wheels lead one to think they won't fall over. They lean like any bike, are heavy. The front suspension can be locked only when stopped so no kick stand is needed.
  5. beemerphile

    beemerphile Long timer

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    My TMax was a ton of fun. No duties for the feet.
  6. rockydrxrvr

    rockydrxrvr Multi Meter Meathead

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    As a V-strom owner of both the 1000 and 650, it was time to move on after 10 years of Strom ownership. In my 60's and with only a couple of decades of riding left......, I want to experience something new upon opening the garage door and what I throw a leg over. I lived/camped on a Vstrom for a month riding in Canada and Alaska several years ago, and had no complaints with comfort and ridability.
    V-stroms are not that good of a fire-road bike with stock suspension,....as even elevated 'water bars' in the road at a good clip seriously scrape the exhaust, or in my case the belly pan. I put a few more extras on my DR650, and will explore the Deserts of Az. as I start the 'Snowbird' exploring of retired life.

    So, only 3 road bikes are tempting me at this time, A Harley XR1200X, a Triumph Scrambler, and go figure.....this new Honda NC700X. I am intruiged by the low and mid range torque, and heard rumors of the NC doing 60mph. at only 3,000 rpm. Is this true? I also am stroking the beard on how the NC mix of this torque and low center of gravity could be a handling smile maker.
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    You are not alone............:lol3
  8. gkgeiger

    gkgeiger Every ride is an ADV

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    I've said many times, this bike is as much fun to ride as any I've owned. After owning over 50 bikes (in 55 yrs) this is the first one that I can do a full lock turn in complete confidence.
  9. Kart22

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    Yes sir. I'm right about there. Hell, you could cruise in 6th at 30 mph if you wanted.
  10. cls

    cls Long timer

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    Now lighten it up, give it good suspension and brakes, and I'm (maybe) in. Economy doesn't have to be cheap. They're almost there...
  11. Kart22

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    May I ask what is wrong with the current suspension? I live in Savannah and ride to Atlanta all the time and it soaks up all those damn splices on I-16.

    I do wish I still had ABS though. Not that you need it all of the time but it's comforting to know that you can't lock up the tires and wipe out.
  12. oldenuf

    oldenuf Been here awhile

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    actually, on the manual transmission, you will be reading about 3200 rpm's at 60 mph
  13. gkgeiger

    gkgeiger Every ride is an ADV

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    Some people just can't be satisfied. I agree the suspension is more then acceptable. The only time I'm not satisfied with it is when I use the bike for something it's not intended for.
  14. oldenuf

    oldenuf Been here awhile

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    I agree that the suspension is acceptable, and the forks just seem to firm on bad roads. I have a bit over 1000 miles now and the forks seem to be wearing in. I will try some different weight fork oil with more miles, so the fix will probably be easily worked out.
  15. dduelin

    dduelin Amazing grace how sweet the sound....

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    You don't bench press a motorcycle, you ride it. This Honda feels 75 pounds lighter than it is. It's never going to be a 350 lb dirt bike with minimal DOT lighting, it's a street bike you will be able to ride 100,000 miles with minimal drama.

    Better brakes? The two piston front caliper model stops shorter than the Versys or the DL650 and that stopping distance places it in the middle of the current crop of 600cc sportbikes. What better brakes do you think it needs?

    Out of the box the many press and video reviews out there generally praise the budget suspension as do many owners. If you need to upgrade it Ohlins and RaceTech only charge about $1200 for a new shock and fork make-over. Then you will have the suspension you need without making the rest of us pay for what we don't need.
  16. fredz43

    fredz43 Been here awhile

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    I agree with you on all points, except that you must have not priced an Ohlins shock recently. The shock alone will be about $1200.
  17. turbodieseli4i6

    turbodieseli4i6 Been here awhile

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    I have locked both the front and back brake with ease several times. I'm not getting the need for better brakes, unless you just want ABS to be standard.

    The shocks can be upgraded, if needed. They are adequate on pavement and gravel roads for the majority of riders this bike is marketed for.

    The times I want a better suspension, is when I'm on very rough dirt roads that have limestone protruding up to 4'' from the surface, so replacing the shocks is on my list, after a skid-plate.
    I just have to slow down, when on these.

    The aftermarket already has the replacement parts, minus skid-plate when I can afford it.

    If you were complaining about the seat, I would be in total agreement. The after market is already on that also.


    I have about 4300 miles on mine now, averaging 69 mpg. Anything that I don't like just takes a little saving up.
    I wouldn't be on the NCX yet if all the mods were already done. At least this way I can put what I want on it, not what someone else wanted.
  18. Bongolia

    Bongolia stop acting

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    BHP is about RPM. Long stroke lower revving engines have less BHP, more torque and better fuel economy.

    I'm a long stroke torque guy myself.
  19. turbodieseli4i6

    turbodieseli4i6 Been here awhile

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  20. Mobiker

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    I found the brakes to be fine on my test ride.

    I did find the supension to be a little harsh on a rough section of road. Admittedly we didn't bother with preload or anything else to set up the bike. The dealer asked if I wanted a test ride and I jumped on it - literally :D
    I'm a big (i.e. fat) guy so I would imagine that someone of more petite dimensions would have found it quite stiff.

    I've ridden the same stretch of road on my BMW and never even noticed it was that rough.