New 2012 Honda NC700X 700cc Parallel Twin!

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Two Plugs, Sep 27, 2011.

  1. Mobiker

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    Thanks! Taller first and second gears would probably help. I found 6th to be almost an overdrive gear on the 700, but did bang the rev limiter in first much easier than I expected.
  2. webbiker

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  3. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    I think 6th IS overdrive.
  4. scooterspirit

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    There is a 2013 with a lot of add on parts, E21 bags, asking $6500, red color, 2500 miles. I thought $6000 might be a fair price, but I'm not even sure what one would cost new otd. Kind of unsure whether we'll even see the 750 here.

    I hit the rev limiter on my 250 occasionally, can't you just start off in second?:lol3

    Sounds like the 750 has an O2 sensor and the 700 does not, that's one less part to buy.

    What does anyone think about buying the 700 over the 750?
  5. John Ashman

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    Looks like the 750x will be about $7800-$8000 if it follows the German pricing. It's only a 4% increase in price there. But, the thing is, it keeps inching up, from $7K to $8K now. Not bad still, really, but it's slowly chipping away at the value proposition which is (was?) it's main deal. Seems to me a used one could be the best deal for most people though it would be nice to feel the difference with the new engine/gearing on vibration which would be my main concern. They were pretty quick to put a counter balancer in and change the gearing. But, I can't get one here, I'd have to get one in the US and the Yamaha triple IS coming as is the twin. Honda of Mexico SUCKs. SUCKS, I tells ya. It's like they sell all the crappy stuff no self-respecting American would buy. Which is great if you want a fleet of pizza delivery vehicles. Errr, I mean "flat round bread with cheese" delivery vehicles. HofMx has "no plans" to bring in the CB500s or NC750s. Deedeedee......
  6. Davidc83

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    Wow, you guys hit the rev limiter on it? Really. I have had mine for 6 months, got almost 7000 miles on it and never came close to it and I have had it 100+ mph (per the GPS) and I can do 0-60mph in 5.2 seconds and not hit the limiter. The best shifting on the bike is between 4000-5000 rpms anyways.

    Don't have to worry about the selling/trading your nc700 for a nc750 in the US- We are not getting them in 2014 and probably not in 2015 either.

    50-60 cc increase with only a 3 BHP increase is not worth trading in my NC700x for a 750x.
    For the ones who think the torque will be greatly increased-NOT.

    Here are the math formulas:
    Torque * RPM/5252 = HP, then Torque= HP * 5252/RPM
    On the old NC700, Peak HP is 51HP at 6500 rpm, so Torque = 51*5252/6500 = 41.2 ft/lbs
    And peak HP on the 750 is supposed to be 54 HP, so Torque = 54*5252/6500 (where the peak HP is at redline of 6500) so Torque would be 43.6 ft/lbs ,
    so you get a max Torque increase of 2.4 ft/lbs from the NC700 to the NC750 at max HP.
    The formula works at any RPM.
    The torque increase is less than 2.5 ft/lbs, not really much and doubt if most riders would be able to tell the difference.
  7. Mobiker

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    I only rode one about 20 miles. I didn't hit the limiter leaving the dealer's parking lot, because I was being very careful. I did hit it leaving a stop sign. It caught me off guard. I ride an old BMW that redlines at 7k and I almost never spin it above 6.5k so I figured the NC's low redline would be no problem. The difference is the NC spools up quicker and its still making good power all the way to the redline. With the beemer, its ready to shift before getting to the redline. I also found the tack on the NC hard to read at a glance.

    I'm sure a few miles on the NC and one would acclimate, so I don't consider the low redline to be a problem.
  8. Cortez

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    That's exactly what I've been trying to tell people who won't buy the bike
    because of it (or buy the CB500X). I hit it a few times on my first ride, but
    10 minutes in I was "aiming" rather well for the 6200-6300 shifts and
    like mentioned above the power doesn't fall off before redline so you can
    use all it's got.

    By the time I was on my 2nd and 3rd ride on the bike, it was a non-issue.

    If it bugs you so much, shift at 5000-5300 revs, the bike will be only a
    fractions slower, or get the DCT version, put it in sport mode and watch
    perfect shifts at the red line all the time.

    Anyone wants to trade his NC for my FZ?
    :D
  9. westgl

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    I dont like the idea of the 750 going to a higher 1st and 2nd gear, so that the rider wont hit the rev limiter, that sound stupid.

    If i guy bangs off the rev limiter, then the next few times, dont you think he will learn to shift it a little shorter.

    That does not make sense, you have 6 spds use them wisely, & learn how to ride the bike and find out what she likes, and how she like you to ride her, instead of blaming her for not liking what you are doing to her.


    I hit the redline on my NC700X once or twice since ive owned it, but that is about all, you just learn how to ride the bike correctly.

    I am liking my NC7X too much to get rid of her
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    The funny thing for me is that I've never had a problem with the rev limiter in 1st or 2nd. The only time I've bumped up against it was halfway through passing someone. If you drop down a gear to quickly accelerate, it doesn't take long to hit 6500 rpm. That's not a good feeling when you're passing someone and the power suddenly drops off...:eek1 Hasn't caused me to consider trading the NC in though. It just changes my style of riding a little bit...just like every bike I've ever owned...they all have their quirks.
    The most confusing thing for me is that they reversed the position of the horn and the signal vs my VFR. Now I keep hitting the horn on the VFR when I occasionally take it out for a spin...:lol3
  11. webbiker

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    Is there a way to find ride reports featuring the NC? I found a couple by chance, but the search is giving me a lot of results that end up having nothing to do with the NC.
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  13. gkgeiger

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    Webbiker, Check NortwestRiders posts.
  14. Fuzzy74

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    There is a good forum dedicated to NC where you can find ride reports. http://nc700-forum.com/forum/cmps_index.php

    One good one here that included an NC was Cannon's Colorado adventure last summer.
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    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=903353

    Here is a good one:wink:
  16. John Ashman

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    I have a tendency to shift at under 4000, under 5000 if I'm in something of a hurry. Don't think I'd ever worry about hitting the rev limiter. Not sure why people think that the purpose of gears is to only use the first 2 or 3.
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    If you are hitting the rev limiter a lot then your missing the whole point of this LOW REVVING , very economical motorcycle !!.


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    I thought I was naughty, but Santa knows I'm nice.
    Got this new sleigh for Christmas, guess I'm one of those guys for now. :lol3
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    Thanks to all for their encouraging remarks, you know who you are!
    Won't be riding much till after choir engagements, but I'll check back in and let you know what I think.
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