Well, Suzuki's Glady's is very metro sexual and it's pretty much left the SV dead in the water. So that doesn't seem to be an issue these days. I also know many people that leave the Italian/German exotica at home (something to do with resale and lease terms) and ride the 250cc Kawasaki to work. So there is another market. And what is the point of wearing out the Fun bike to ride in Boring traffic each day anyway? Plenty of older people using scooters and liking it as well. And as far as scooters and adventure riding goes, I think it's time to man up folks.. Real men aren't afraid of riding scooters. I still think it has its place. Funny thing is the best selling brand in Oz is Honda. So They must be doing something right. After all companies are there to make money.