New 2012 Honda NC700X 700cc Parallel Twin!

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Two Plugs, Sep 27, 2011.

  1. limeymike

    limeymike Who Me?

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    Platform sharing by definition is using something you already have, ie, in the parts bin. It also means they are cutting costs and using generic design, ie 'sharing'. When striving for generic or sharing it is hardly the way forward in design, it is a compromise. It's a CRV in motorcycle form, not a true 4x4, It doesn't excel at anything but does most things OK, but it is profitable, designed by accountants
  2. mattness

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    dealer told me july
  3. richnyc

    richnyc Vagabond on a bike

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    If you guys are interested, I have uploaded the review from the Ride UK mag, I think May '12 issue. Just took snaps with my iPhone, but it should be fairly readable. Right-click and download full rez files... Enjoy it;)

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  4. Grainbelt

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    They made a damn scooter on the same platform, with slightly different bits. Of course it is a compromise.

    Sharing tooling cost across three models (in Europe anyway; we just get one) allows them to offer it at a lower cost. You may not like it for some functional reason (have you ridden one?) but the manufacturing process makes a lot of sense for an industry that has really struggled to move volume.

    Every mfgr does this to some extent. This is the first time it has been done with such divergent outcomes, and I give them :thumb for that.
  5. Towjam

    Towjam Been here awhile

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    With maybe the exception of the Honda logo, the Deauville (NT700) and NC share zero components.
  6. p0diabl0

    p0diabl0 Been here awhile

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    10 second 0-60? 16.7 second quarter mile? I know it's not supposed to be that kind of bike but ouch. From what I can find even the G650GS can rank a 13.7 in the 1/4 mile.
    Edit: A KLR650 runs a 14.5!
  7. GrahamD

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    I am going to watch a few vieo's but that sounds awfully wierd to be.

    I am sure that I saw one go from 60 - 190Km/h in WAY less than that.

    Did they get one tonne Bob to do the acceleration tests or something?
  8. p0diabl0

    p0diabl0 Been here awhile

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    I have to concur - the vids make it look quite a bit faster. Guess we'll have to see what the other mags say.
  9. ferrix

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    I think there is very little danger of you 'getting stuck' with DCT because DCT versions are nowhere to be seen so far - except for Integra which doesn't have that option at all, the other two come only with standard manuals at this point. It looks like DCT will come along later... much later.
  10. bobobob

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    So it's as fast as a poorly running Honda Rebel?
    Who wouldn't want that kind of performance.

    And the G650GS will get better gas mileage and go off road.

    I don't get it.
  11. GrahamD

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    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/qcaFhnFG3qk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    0-115Km/h in about 7sec
    0-150 in about 14 secs
    0-160km/h in about 21

    Cheers
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    So it depends on whether you have One Tonne Bob or a normal sized person riding it I suppose.

    So either the speedo is way out or someone can't change gears.

    About the same as a 2008 Ford mustang Convertable.

    2008 Ford Mustang Convertible 0-60 mph 7.2 Quarter mile 15.5

    I don't know how people would cope.
  12. GrahamD

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    I don't think it's the best they can do at all.

    I think they could come out with an absolutely brilliant $100,000.00 bike that weighs almost nothing, makes 300HP and no-one will buy, because you know, it would then be deemed to be a rip off.

    Or they could try a really expensive Hi tech, Boxer (They have done them for years) and be accused of ripping off BMW.

    Either way when you are not flavor of the month it really doesn't matter what you do.

    Where was the cries of shame when BMW introduced the F650,m You know that gutless thing that only made a few HP but got great fuel economy and cost way too much?

    At least the Honda doesn't cost too much.

    And parts bin specials?

    Like the BMW R series bikes The F series bikes? Many KTM's, Cars. Triumphs. Ducati's

    You should take a good look at how many shared components are on bikes out there before knocking someone for that.

    I take it you don't like it then.
  13. turbodieseli4i6

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    +1
    I would prefer a bike that some parts work on other platforms. 20 years later when you might need a certain part, You will have more of an opportunity to get said part at a reasonable price. Not to mention finding it at all.
    Simple as this, if you don't like it, don't buy it.
  14. Wallachian Spikes

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    I don't think the DCT version will be available in the U.S. but, it's possible that your Honda dealer knows more about this bike than some anonymus dip**** on the interwebs.
  15. Towjam

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    It will be.
  16. Wallachian Spikes

    Wallachian Spikes Long timer

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    I'm glad to hear that, even though I'm not interested in it. More choices can only be a good thing.
  17. HarveyM

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    It's on the Honda website with pricing, so Honda USA thinks it's coming sometime.
    http://powersports.honda.com/2012/nc700x/options.aspx

    I'm not surprised some riders dislike it- Seems to me it's basically a Honda Jazz in motorcycle form; Cheap, basic, and functional. Let's hope it's as reliable. Personally, as a Vespa rider, I like it, and want a test ride.
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    Damn .... ya'll will argue about anything! :rofl
  19. L.B.S.

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    While I agree with the basic sentiment of Honda going kinda loopy these past few years :lol3 I would say that the judgement on the NC700X is a little bit off.

    It would appear that even amongst the three models, they have a fair number of different non-sharing parts, and being that they are all a new, unique, clean sheet design with, as far as I can tell, no parts interchangeable between any other Honda ever made, (let alone a Deauville), I believe "parts bin" is really not appropriate.
  20. dwoodward

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    Not new, been available over there for years... and they've ceased bringing them to the USA.