New 2012 Honda NC700X 700cc Parallel Twin!

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Two Plugs, Sep 27, 2011.

  1. Worroll

    Worroll Been here awhile

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    So should we start a pool weather there will be a 2013 N700X?

    I say no. They'll sell a few. And that's it. These are motorcycles, not Honda Civics, they don't sell numbers based on practicality, unless there is some real fun backing it up. There are plenty of practical bikes that may have less MPG, but have a lot more fun.
  2. HarveyM

    HarveyM n00b

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    I think it’ll sell in Europe. In the US & Canada? I’m thinking it might last a couple years, like the GL500-650 Silverwings, Pacific Coast, or GB500. Maybe, just maybe there’s a little niche for commuters, even here.
  3. JamesG

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    Suzuki didn't think the SV-650 would sell very well in N. America.
  4. RaY YreKa

    RaY YreKa Palanquins RTW

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    In continental Europe, regular folks use scooters all the time. For those that want to upgrade to a bike with similar mpg and longer range, plus the cost-conscious commuters, it will sell imho.

    The big issue here is the price of gas; a recent survey said the average family is now spending more on gas than on food.
  5. JamesG

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    No we don't!:rofl
  6. L.B.S.

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    I wonder how difficult it would be to turbocharge one of these things... :evil


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  7. Wuwei

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    I like "parts bin specials." A lot more than unique, one-offs, that last a year or two and then you can never find parts for the thing ever again. Actually, I think more bikes could be created this way at lower cost. I like what Kawasaki has done with the 650 motor in the Ninja and the Versys. Two different bikes for different customers, but the same basic mechanicals. I'd love to see some of the single-cylider dirt bike and dual sport engines used for creating interesting street bikes, like a Kawasaki or Honda or Suzuki 650 single.
  8. GrahamD

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    +1,

    Biggest growing segment is scooters where I live. People are looking at ways of saving money after paying way too much for houses and getting themselves way too far in debt.

    Scooters offer some form of protection for the "office gear". These bikes also offer some storage for the "over gear" that doesn't have to be dealt with at work as well.

    Been there done that. A "recreational vehicle" just doesn't really cut it as an all rounder and a 125 scooter doesn't either.

    You can get a 250 to make this kind of power, true, but it is a really draining experience if you have to sit on a high revving gear shifting high strung 250 for hours a day.

    In a previous life, having to commute on freeways, urban gridlock, up hills and having to deal with speeds ranging from stop start for 45 minutes to 130Km/h on the freeways for a total of 1-2 hours each day this looks ideal for most peoples needs.

    On the weekends out west, I could shell out another 15K on a "fun" bike but then that's another 15K top shell out. Then I could get a bigger car and a trailer so I could tow the "fun" bike out to the good roads to avoid the long boring bits that's not so much fun on the fun bike. I have seen it. It happens.

    I could also depreciate the crap out of my fun bike by using it in not so fun traffic and spend big on tires that re being chewed up.
  9. GrahamD

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    Stranger things have happened.

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  10. pachap

    pachap CANNOT RIDE

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    So I called a somewhat local dealer today, one that is in a largely rural area. He said it could be July but don't expect it until August or even September. I asked him if he had seen much interest in this bike and he said that have fielded a lot inquiries about it. I'll take that as a good sign. I even talked to him about putting a deposit down. Of course he wanted me to do so, but I'm still thinking about it and weighing the NC700X against a Versys. He did say that he was planning on selling a lot of them.

    Long story short, I'll probably put a deposit down on it, even with the salesman reiterating that it may be September before it hits.

    FWIW, he said he has heard that Givi has a rack system in the works for this bike. I haven't really checked anything out by Givi in a while. Left me with the impression that Givi doesn't make stuff for the bike... yet. I have seen H/B bags for it. He said that he hasn't heard anything firm, but to expect a full Honda factory bag set to run $1200. I'll pass on that.
  11. the Pheasant

    the Pheasant Been here awhile

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    I always understood the term to mean something built up using bits and pieces surplus to a production run left lying around in "parts bins". My last bike - a 2004 Triumph Sprint RS - was a parts bin special.

    These bikes - the 2004 version with single-sided swingarm - were presumably built to use up a surplus of RS fairings and handlebars left over after the 2003 Triumph factory fire by fitting them to what was in every other respect a Sprint ST chassis.

    Building several different machines on the same basic platform is not quite the same and seems an eminently sensible way to minimise R&D and production costs.
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  13. sendler

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    I hope Honda will have an NC700X for me to ride at Americade next month. If it is like the CBR250R of last year, World wide demand will swamp production and the US will be last in line to get any until the end of July.
  14. Towjam

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    Looks like Honda is taking this approach with the 250cc thumper first put into the CBR250. Check out this new Honda dual-sport that (hopefully) will end up in the U.S.
  15. GrahamD

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    aaahh! It;s the dreaded terminology problem.

    Clean sheet = No existing parts have been used (Never really happens, it's a marketing term)

    Parts bin special = using parts that are already being made and cobbling up a bike from them. Doesn't really happen all that often, but is used to varying degree in most bikes. Makes sense to share components where possible. Usually refers to things that have an over reliance on parts that don't work well together or a bike that is mostly cheap and out of date. For example the CB250 Honda that was sold here until recently that still looked almost the same as the 1981 Hawk but was worse somehow. The best examples are built by the engineers, the worst examples are built by management / marketing. (Sorry for all the hands on managers out there but you know who I am talking about.)

    Spare parts special.
    "What the %^& are we going to do with all this stuff . Why has someone ordered twice as many X as we needed. What moron ordered all this?
    Do something with it"

    These words usually precede the development of a bike like this.

    That's my take on it anyway from experience in an unrelated industry and from discussions with drunk people who know about what really goes on.
  16. pachap

    pachap CANNOT RIDE

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    So I've got like 7 Honda dealers in driving distance. What is up with all these little hick towns that don't have the population to support a McDonald's, but they can have a new motorcycle dealership?:huh Anyway, I called 2 more of them today and got the same story from both dealers. They both said that each dealer will be allotted 2 bikes, one DCT, one manual. One thinks it is a waste of his floor space and doesn't plan on ordering any, but offered to order me one with a 10% deposit. Basically said the same thing as my closest dealer, whom I will not be dealing with.

    I had a very pleasant talk with the other dealer. He said he was trying to get ahold of as many as possible, but Honda wasn't making any promises about availability. We had a long, open, conversation about the state of the bike market. I told him this was the first Honda I've even bothered looking at in a few years. He said, "Don't feel bad, nobody else has been looking." :rofl He said he was very confident that this bike would sell well, moreso than any other Honda he has seen in a while. He said he has been a good judge of the market, said he passed on the VTX 1800's until Honda had their fire sale on them, and he has refused to take in an NT700V, but he said he thought this one would sell quick because he felt "this was the first bike that they got the price point right on in quite a while". Could have all been a sales pitch, but I have basically heard the same from two dealers now.

    I have made up my mind, this is the bike for me. I can get over the fuel cap being under the rear seat. I will be putting a deposit down soon.
  17. MODNROD

    MODNROD Decisions, decisions

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    Hehehehe!

    Be good to bottle that knowledge........
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  19. jordan325ic

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    This is one of the very few new bikes I would consider buying if I was in the market. I don't like the looks but the specs are perfect for an all-rounder and the price is right.

    Plus, I bet the low-revving, car-motor-derived engine will last 150k miles without breaking a sweat.
  20. janeuner

    janeuner Get Some

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    I'll probably buy one, but I won't put a deposit down. If they all get bought up, they'll build another model next year. If they don't, I'll pick it up during the fire sale.

    That, and I'm really hoping they offer a manual+ABS version in 2013. Perhaps. I wonder if I can find someone who will offer a test ride...

    /delurk