new 2013 F800GS ordered, but now having my doubts!

Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by ccooper, Feb 18, 2013.

  1. pkbinder

    pkbinder Kissing Moose

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    I have put 30k miles on my '09 and no issues at all. Reading the forums sometimes keeps me up at night worrying about my stator and my wheel bearings, but so far so good.
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  2. nomadb

    nomadb Been here awhile

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    F800GS is pretty solid bike. I had mine over a year with some long distance riding under heavy rain. I did some gravel roads as well, I love it.

    But did you test ride one before the order? I believe we all have different expectations and I will rather test it first than be sory later.

    R1200GS will do good offroad but way to heavy compared to F8. Again your usage is important here. I would think R1200GS would be better with a pillion on highways.

    F8 is pretty much by itself whwn compared to other bikes. Tiger 800 is great but more road oriented. I finf F800 to be great on dirt roads. Offcourse a single cylinder KTM like 530 is better at extreme riding like heavy mud and so. That is why I have a Husky610.

    F8 is great to be used in the city as well. It is light and easy to get around cars. Not heavy and not overheating due to LC engine.

    Just to add the F8 has very good mpg. It burns far less than tiger and ADV990. (ADV 990 is also in a league of its own).
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  3. nomadb

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  4. duffs

    duffs I have a beard

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    I've had my F8 for a year now and no more has gone wrong with it than the 2 Hondas I had before it (ie nothing). I grew up with a mechanic dad and am quite tuned in to any out-of-the-ordinary noises, vibrations, behaviours etc of most things mechanical.

    The F8's engine will never be sewing machine smooth compared to a 4 cylinder Japanese bike engine but it is in my experience much more characterful and has bags more torque... and has a lot more valve, piston and timing chain noise. Any modern bike/engine is going to be reliable if you take good care of it (regular checks of oil, coolant, tyre pressure, chain tension/lubrication etc) and BMW have had the better part of a decade to sort out reliability issues with early components used in this engine.

    The nature of the internet means we don't know what led to failures that others have reported, or if some of the failures could have been prevented if symptoms had been addressed earlier - and as someone above mentioned, people aren't going to write in 'all a-ok today'. One person's idea of 'light off-roading' is very different from the next person's, and while the F8 with the right tyres is a very capable bike, it's still not a dirt bike.

    I've also known people who had cars/bikes for years without any servicing and didn't even know how to check their oil level (or even that they needed to), although the majority of people on this site are obviously far more informed than this.

    So enjoy the new bike, and don't be paranoid about it. Take good care of it and you should be enjoying it for years to come.
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  5. ixab

    ixab just Aaron, really

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    If you end up with both I'd be surprised if you fall back on a WR longer dual sport rides, at least for any ride the requires more than 30 or so miles of pavement or camping gear. The F800 is a pretty capable off-road bike, especially if you put some money into suspension. Short of getting an air-cooled XR, any dirt bike is going to need some TLC if you're riding it properly. Like other's above have said, the forums tend to distort how many problems a bike has. Even then, all the problems have solutions. It's not like anyone has found things wrong that aren't fixable. If you put 30,000 off road miles on your Tacoma, and drove it like a dirt bike, it would probably come up with an issue or two as well :evil

    If you're using the WR for trail riding (vs fire road + pavement), I wouldn't sweat the 450/250 thing too much. You have to wring them out a bit more than a 450, but a 250 will have plenty of scoot. Even for a generously sized fella like yourself, I don't think you'll miss the bigger displacement much if you're using it as a woods bike. If you do want more grunt, you can throw an Athena kit on it and bump the displacement. I have a TE250 with a 300 kit and it's a great compromise between getting the bigger engine.
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  6. ccooper

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    haha, good point.
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  7. RRVT

    RRVT Wild and Crazy Guy

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    I got mine 4 years ago, 55K miles so far. I did have some usual "2009" issues with the stator and the bike stalling in rain once in a while. Once all the recalls were done, no more issues.

    Definitely one of the most versatile bikes out there. On a cross-country trip we did the Apache Trail, jumped back on the highway and continued at 85mph, the bike did great in both areas. The bike is also good for city riding. Two things made a huge difference for high speeds and long distance comfort - a ZTechnik windshield and a combination of a gel seat pad and a sheep skin seat cover from Alaska Leather.

    I like the mileage I get on this bike - overall average is 50MPG, on back road rides I get around 55, and on the Blue Ridge Parkway I did a 270 mile day using up the entire tank, 66MPG. I also have an R1100GS and I do admit that I prefer that one for long highway days, but I am never ever selling "Hermann". The plan for this year is to keep TKCs on and push it harder in dirt that I have been willing so far, that's where this bike has an edge over the big boxers.
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  8. itsatdm

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    "I've now read about bad bearings, bad stators, cracked gas tanks, leaking valve covers, leaking water pumps, bad fuel pumps and bad suspensions. I know anything mechanical can fail, and I know the Internet sometimes is not the best source of info, but this is crazy."

    They are real problems. Somebody had them and posted them up. Then a lot of people talked about them:roflBMW does not post its production number by model, so it is hard to determine if it is "normal". BMW also upgrades the bike without any fanfare so even the dealers are unaware of some of them or can tell you why.

    I have a 2009 bike manufactured in 7/08. It had way too many recalls, and upgrades(fixes that did not warrant recalls because they did not endanger your life). Half of my riding is on fire roads and I was not impressed by the suspension.

    BMW fixed all but the suspension under warranty. I did that on my own along with an Accelerator module to cure the abrupt throttle. Something you won't notice unless are putting around on rocky terrain at low rpm.

    You are buying a 2013 bike that has different forks than mine. That ventilated flywheel on your bike will probably solve any stator issue. I had a cracked fuel tank that was replaced by a newer version. A lot of riders were in a hurry and got old stock only to crack again. Sounds like either old stock or an occasional new tank cracking. Don't worry about it, you have a 3 year warranty and 2 years on the replacement.

    BMW made a better/thicker gasket for the valve cover. It is a wear item than riders pay for. Instead running to the dealer, if they had waited until service time, they would have gotten it without paying additional.

    I have my own idea on fuel pumps. I don't think it is piss pore design. I ride year round, get gas from stations with a lot of customers and run an occasional dose of Techron in it. It has been fine.

    Many of the bearing complaints came early and it was found there was a 2 month period when rear wheels had a constricted bores and not only ruined the original bearing but the replacement. Still a few bearing complaints but probably no worse than any other bike. I just grease mine.

    I read about leaky water pumps occasionally, doesn't seem to be too many out there. I did not have that problem.

    I have not had an issue in over 3yrs. Change the oil, check the clearance and go. It has never left me stranded.

    A shaky start but I like it. So much so, that for much of my fire road travels I use it, instead of my thumper, because it is so much more stable.

    It is the Internet, not everything you read is true. Go enjoy your bike
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  9. G-Mac

    G-Mac Been here awhile

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    Thats a good plan. Almost same as mine I have the F800gs Kalamata on order get it next month and I bought a xr250 for the little bit serious dirt I will be doing. Fun little bike. Cant wait for the F800gs. I still think I will miss my KLR650. Good thing I sold it to my brother
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  10. ccooper

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    How long ago did you order yours. I ordered 2/7, and salesman said 60-75 days...so I'm hoping early/mid april. Good choice on color...mine shouldn't be too many #'s behind yours.
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  11. ccooper

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    Thanks man. That's a lot of updated specific information on some of the problems I was worried about.
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  12. G-Mac

    G-Mac Been here awhile

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    Well I talked to him early last week and he said it would be arriving in the warehouse this week. He asked if I wanted to pick it up earlier (being early to mid march) but I declined as there is still snow and I am super busy at work until the beginning of April. No sense in paying for it and insurance and using up warranty time when I can't ride it.
    I ordered it last November with an April delivery date in mind. I could have had one much earlier but with work being busy and my sons hockey and my daughters activities it wasn't worth it.
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  13. lakota

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    I ordered my F700 on Dec 27, it arrived at the dealer Feb 22 and I pick it up on Mar 1.
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  14. FredRydr

    FredRydr Danger: Keep Back 500 Ft.

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    Itsatdm's assessment is virtually the same as mine with my 2009. Had I bought a 2012, my visits to the dealers would have been less frequent. I would expect the redesigned 2013 to be even better.

    As for the suspension, just do the upgrades now, rather than "wearing out" the OEM components. You're buying the bike for recreation and pleasure, right? You will enjoy your expensive bike much more from the get-go.

    Fred
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  15. oclv454

    oclv454 Been here awhile

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    My guess is that you will most likely enjoy the F8GS. Good on two track and goes 130 mph on pavement. Out corners the big sport tourers in twisty stuff. I've got a DRZ 400, an F8GS, and a K1300GT. All do well for what I got them for. If I had to sell two of them the F800GS is the one that I would keep.
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