New 2013 TomTom Rider 4.3"

Discussion in 'GPS 101 - Which GPS For Me' started by AlecMyrddyn, Mar 21, 2013.

  1. AlecMyrddyn

    AlecMyrddyn Been here awhile

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    TomTom announced a new widescreen version of the Rider Motorcycle GPS on February 14th: http://corporate.tomtom.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=740317

    Looks like it's started shipping in Europe, but there's no news on a US release date yet.

    http://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/tomtom-rider/ has some details while we wait for the US version of the page to display something other than a 404 error.

    Does anyone from across the pond have one yet to be able to provide first impressions? Does anyone have any inside scoop from TomTom to know when it will be available in the US and at what price?

    -Alec
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  2. Cerberus83

    Cerberus83 The Wingman

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    I see that you already had posted a question on TT's forum (I was going to suggest that :D). Based on some preliminary reports (i.e. announcements), the cost is supposed to be around $300-$400. As for the release date, it has not officially been announced yet (for US market), but according to some folks on TT forum, it supposed to be late Q1 or Q2.

    I was looking forward to it (had a great experience with their car GPS - GO720), but decided to pull the trigger on Zumo 665 instead. I have not been able to use Zumo, but the short amount of time I spent playing with it looks to be quite promising. I don't like the fact that the new Rider has built-in memory and no expanding capabilities (no SD/microSD cards).
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  3. AlecMyrddyn

    AlecMyrddyn Been here awhile

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    Thanks, here's hoping TomTom responds. It's frustrating that they announced the product without pricing or release date for the US.

    I like my Garmin Nuvi 255W for the car, but it's only OK as a bike GPS. I really want a waterproof GPS that I can plan routes on for MC trips (like Newfoundland... :D ). BlueTooth announcement of turns would be really nice as well. I just cannot stomach the cost of Garmin MC specific GPS units... ~$700, really? Or $400 for the 220, but that has a tiny screen and you have to buy map updates if you want them.

    The lack of expandable memory doesn't seem like it will matter to me on the Rider, plus I really like the integrated sun shield and included powered dock. I have no experience using any GPS other than my Garmin or iPhone's built-in apps.

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    AlecMyrddyn Been here awhile

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    So there's been nothing official from TomTom on their Discussion Forum yet in terms of an official release date, but it appears things are moving.

    Amazon now allows you to pre-order the Rider 5 for $389.95.
    They currently say "Usually ships within 3 to 5 weeks."
    I just put in a pre-order and was told "Delivery Estimate: Wednesday May 15, 2013 - Friday May 24, 2013 by 8:00pm". Others who have posted on the TomTom forums have similar date ranges from Amazon.

    Fingers crossed that Amazon is correct and this arrives in early June at the latest!
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  5. AlecMyrddyn

    AlecMyrddyn Been here awhile

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    For anyone watching this thread:

    Over the weekend, TomTom added the new Rider to their US website. This morning on their Forum, they also commented on a couple threads stating that it will starting shipping on May 15th in the US.
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    I think it is on AMAZON now for some rip off 589.... jerks

    and the original screw you to BMW and Garmin for convincing the world that bikers should pay 2 1/2 times for a gps
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    Emoto Sure, why not?

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    AlecMyrddyn Been here awhile

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    The New 2013 TomTom Rider (version 5) did have a price of $389.95 listed on Amazon for a while, and you could pre-order it. My pre-order still lists a delivery date of May 15th - May 24th, but hasn't shipped yet.

    Amazon doesn't show a price anymore, and you can no longer pre-order, instead you can only sign up to be notified when it will be available: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BHADL3U/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Make sure you are looking at the correct version of the Rider with the 4.3" screen and lifetime maps, Part Number 1GD0.052.00. There are older used models listed on Amazon with $550+ price tags that probably aren't what you are looking for.

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    AlecMyrddyn Been here awhile

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  10. Emoto

    Emoto Sure, why not?

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    I stand corrected. Thank you for clarifying and correcting that! :thumb
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    the website shows 349 euros which would be about $452 us dollars.
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    AlecMyrddyn Been here awhile

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    $399.95 seems to be the US "list price" all online retailers agree upon. Again, we should hopefully know soon.
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    I have an "old" tomtom Rider 2 that I bought on Ebay about 3 years ago...I ordered a Garmin 665 LM today but am thinking about returning it to Twisted Throttle.. In the process I also had to order a bluetooth headset.. I have come to the realization that the issue with my "old" GPS was the cardo headset (that came with it) that was not easily compatible with my Neotech helmet.. so I ordered an interphone F5 headset today also.. I have realized that if I marry the new headset with my "old" GPS, I may have everything I wanted.. easy phone connectivity thru the headset.. a radio (FM built into it) and music from my Ipod and connectivity and turn by turn from the TomTom and I save about $800 in the process... so am I thinking correctly?.. Iwas turned off by the lack of TomTom support in the US for the old rider 2.. so wanted to go to a new unit.. but it works OK... I just can't upgrade maps for some reason..
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    I would consider myself a "TomTom fanboy" and the reason why is b/c you can customize TomTom where it's not so easy on Garmin. However, I ended up getting Garmin 665LM (also from Twisted - great service, by the way!) mainly since I wanted a dedicated "bike" GPS and two selling points for me were number of waypoints one can have in his/her route and SiriusXM capability that Garmin offers.

    The price of new Rider 5 is definitely "attractive," but I hate the fact that it does not have microSD/SD capability. You can argue that this (theoretically) speeds-up the load time, but what it does not allow you is to switch maps on the fly.

    If they [TomTom] only made GO720 bike-friendly, I would be all over it.

    As for Garmin, it was a bit of a learning-curve (coming from TomTom) and one of the biggest things I had to used to was the amount of time it takes Garmin to load your route. Granted, the route I had loaded was 6K miles, so once I broke it down into multiple segments (i.e., daily routes) the load times were significantly increased. Overall, I'm starting to like Garmin, but form "user-friendly" perspective, I still think TomTom is better...

    If Rider 2 has everything you need, I would stick with it. On the other hand, if you're interested in Sirius, tracks and topo maps, I would go with Garmin.
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    Cerburus- Great feedback.. I ended up buying the Zumo 665 because of the XM radio.. from Twisted...They were a hughe help in the order.. I also ordered the Interphone f5 headset that I am very psyched about.. I had no idea that a bluetooth headset would do so much.. I can use that on a day to day basis with just a phone.. listen to the radio during my commute and not use the GPS.. I will go to Twisted Throttle (I'm 80 interstate miles away) for an good install.. also getting a few other farkles like a good lighter plug on the dash & so on. that appt is in 2 weeks.. I got a nice mount that will go on the middle of the tupperware that cover the handlebars on my Burgman.. a big investment .. but... sigh.. I have needs..
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    @North - make sure the puck (Garmin antenna) is pointing straight up and has a clear view of the sky. Out of 3 bars, I keep getting 1-2 bars, but I do get 3 if I put the puck on my top case.

    Pairing BT with Zumo is actually quite easy and straightforward. I'm using SENA for my setup and have it paired with my phone and GPS. Actually, that's not entirely correct; the phone is paired to Zumo and Zumo is paired to SENA.*

    I would say the biggest learning curve is going to be using BaseCamp. I'm not going to say that it's terrible, but then again, I wouldn't be too far off with that statement either... However, once you learn how to use it, planning trips/routes does become (somewhat) easier. I still like to use MS Street & Trips and Google Maps.

    I'm still on "I'm liking Garmin" train and hopefully I will stay on it when it comes to bike GPS...


    *If you know how pairing devices works, then you probably don't need to read this. If not, then I will try to explain this in a nutshell. Without going into too much detail or technicality, bluetooth uses two profiles: HFP (hand free profile) and A2DP (stereo). You can only use one A2DP profile at the time. What this means is that if you pair your phone using A2DP (to listen to the music through Pandora for example), you can only pair your GPS using HFP (which will give you voice direction only; you WILL NOT be able to listen to Sirius). The same is true if you pair GPS using A2DP: you will be able to listen to directions AND Sirius, but you will not be able to listen to Pandora (music) via your phone -- you will only be able to make/receive calls. In case of Zumo, it is a bit quirky and the best way to pair it is to pair your phone to Zumo first (you can make/receive calls) and then Zumo to your BT device. Otherwise, Zumo may start to compete for the priority and as a result the connection could get disconnected from your BT. In summary, you can listen to the music via BT using ONLY ONE device at the time.


    @Alec - Sorry for highjacking your thread!
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