New adventure bike

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by jorgeAbreu, Apr 12, 2013.

  1. jorgeAbreu

    jorgeAbreu n00b

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    I intend to try it too. :)

    But as it is a new bike, I can't find too much feedback and testing in the internet. :(
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  2. strider.deano

    strider.deano Been here awhile

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    The XC generally gets near 50 mpg.
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  3. browneye

    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    BMW's are expensive to maintain out of warranty. And they're expensive to buy.
    KTM's make excellent riders but they can be finicky too. I'd take a 450/525/530/500 but not one of their big bikes.

    The liter-plus bikes are heavy. So depending on your size... If you're great big guy get a great big bike. Otherwise the 800 size bikes will do everything they do only easier.

    Another vote for the Tiger 800XC. I looked at all those bikes, and coming off a sportbike you would love the Tiger. Will do all the dirt roads you want and is a stellar road bike. You can't go wrong here.
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  4. Whorepedo

    Whorepedo Been here awhile

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    Just my opinions...

    My experience with my GS - unless you live close to and have a good relationship with the dealer it can be a pain. Great bike but its gonna break in a stupid way that only the dealer can fix and you'll have to deal with that headache.

    I dont know about the 1190 KTM, but i did have a 950 KTM. The 950 was a great bike in the mountains and on the trail. But its not something I wanted to put a lot of miles on and really by the time I finished my 45 mile commute I already felt beat up on it. Just something about it. Simple maintenance required an entire day/weekend to accomplish.

    I've had my Tenere for a while now. It feels a lot like the GS maybe just a little more peppy. It gives me a much better sense of security than the GS ever did, mostly because its Yamaha reliability. The weight really doesnt show that much. On the downside I think the looks are kinda bland compared to others. Theres no one thing about it thats great, but everything about it has been really good for me. Maintenance is simple and even if something bad does happen almost every town has a Yamaha dealership.
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  5. browneye

    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    I would take a tenere over a GS. Rode them both, liked the yamaha better. Liked the motor and gearbox better, felt smoother and easier to ride.

    But I found them both bulky to manuever. Great two-up mount though, either one, and lots of room, very comfy.

    Now having put 5K mile on the tiger I'd probly say Explorer over them both. Triumph is building stellar bikes.

    The lowest depreciation will be a used GS. Probly the best value unless you have to pay to have it fixed. :D

    Really question your true needs before opting for a liter-plus bike.
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  6. hoebster

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    I own a Tenere, and even if it was $2000 more than GS I would still choose it based on reliability and low cost of ownership. In almost 20 years of following forums I have seen many Japanese bikes hit 200,000 and 300,000 miles, yet still haven't heard of a failure on a driveline. Find JaimeV posts here on his Tenere and then tell me the bike can't go places a KTM can, but more comfortable.
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  7. RocketJohn

    RocketJohn Hook em' Horns!

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    This!
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  8. hoebster

    hoebster Been here awhile

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    What do you mean by your one word response? No sarcasm, I just don't understand it.
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  9. Whorepedo

    Whorepedo Been here awhile

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    It means he agrees with you.
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  10. RocketJohn

    RocketJohn Hook em' Horns!

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    This!
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  11. danketchpel

    danketchpel Long timer

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    I've been doing a ton of test rides lately (GSA, Explorer, Tenere, Stelvio, Multistrada, Tigers XC and std) working down my own path to the ADV bike of my choice. I'd have to say if I was planning on riding solo at least 80% of the time I'd go with a Tiger, either XC for a little better in the dirt, or roadie for a little lighter and better on the road. I've ridden both and I must admit I liked the roadie quite a bit. I don't know why it feels lighter than the XC but it seems to. It's still got 19'/17" wheels, same as the other ADV bikes but they are cast. Anyway, I think all of the liter+ bikes are too heavy.

    I am planning on buying the Stelvio for my needs (90% 2 up pavement with some 2 up dirt road, and commuting solo). I will still have my DRZ for more serious dirt work.

    My second choice is the Tenere, but that's me, others might well place it first. I've ridden it 4x and it's a great bike. Luckily there's a fix for the stock ECU programming nonsense. Plan on ~$450 if you want it to run right, but that's very common these days due to our "friends" at the Gov't agencies.

    I'd give a big thumbs up to checking out the Tiger in which ever flavor suits you best. The 800 triple is one sweet engine. I wish they'd offer a Street Triple with that 800 engine, mmmm

    It might come down to whether or not you want shaft drive. For me it was imperative.
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    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    ^^ :thumb

    The Stelvio definitely has a lot more character.

    The reason I'll own a Ducati and a Harley before my days are done.
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  13. Whorepedo

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    I think "want it to run right" is a little strong. I've put several thousand miles on my Tenere with no reprogramming and there's nothing out of the ordinary about it to me.

    To each their own, but I wouldn't call that a mandatory fix.
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  14. danketchpel

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    You're right, it's not mandatory.

    But most of these bikes don't really run the way they were intended to by the engineers. After they get done mucking up a good running motorcycle to pass the smog regs they don't run as intended with little hiccups here and there. Most people notice a significant improvement once they reflash/program/alter/etc. the fuel injection mapping on these bikes. My Vstrom went from rather herky jerky to amazingly smooth with a remapping, most Tenere and Stelvio owners report similar improvements once they do a reflash to set things right. That's what I meant by "run right", but no it's not mandatory at all.

    The only thing I didn't care for on the Tenere is the somewhat vague feeling throttle at the lower openings, and it's limited in the first 3 gears.
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  15. hoebster

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    The clutch mod takes away the low gear stumbles on the Tenere almost completely. Each his own. I would do STelvio over GS any day of week.
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