New adventure bikes for 2012,2013

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  1. Velociraptor

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  3. Strokizator

    Strokizator Been here awhile

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    At the other end of the spectrum, I'd likely choose the 800cc version, sort of a 7/8ths scale 990. Hopefully that bike would be 50lbs lighter so the performance difference wouldn't be much and fuel mileage may also increase to high 40's or even low 50's.

    On the other hand, I can't imagine I'd want to replace my 990A ever. I love this bike.
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  4. Yascher

    Yascher Been here awhile

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    it means in 2012 we all will have to switch to having 2 bikes in a garage, 1200+800CC....sounds like a new KTM sales strategy:D
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  5. kirb

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    To stay on top (at least in performance), KTM will have to compete in the 1200cc class and the somewhat price sensitive 800cc class. Those are starting to fill up with posers right now.

    Should be interesting. Can't wait.
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  6. Des

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    Interesting, should be a nice couple of bikes. I hope the 1200 gets decent fuel consumption though.
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  7. Questor

    Questor More Undestructable

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    Let's hope they are nice simple bikes....
    No FI, ABS, coded Keys, Can-bus etc.
    For a, "Adventure" bike it is important that they are easy to repair in the "field".

    All the complex and delicate electronics are one of the main reasons I got rid of my BMW's.

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  8. docjay

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    I don't doubt a larger less off-road worthy Adventure is in the works, but if I wanted that kind of a bike I'd buy the GS. Seems to me like KTM is paying more attention to BMW's customer's wants than their own. I think the Adventure should stick to it's roots off-road.
    As for the smaller V-Twin, I will believe it when I see it. Several of us have been waiting for a 750-800cc V-Twin KTM adventure for a long time.
    When KTM stopped making the 640 Adventure many of us thought the new one was imminent. How long has that been now?

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  9. kirb

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    I agree, except you can't deny BMW's sales over KTM. KTM might be chasing some of BMW's (as well as Yamaha and Triumph) customers. The 'adventure' market is going to explode in the next few years.

    The economy may have killed any projects in the works, so a midsize KTM may have been months away from release, but shelved until things looked better.
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  10. Subutai

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    A lighter heavyweight please, 990 is a biaatch weightwise on snow and ice.

    1200 I would def not buy. Please a adv bike in the 7-800 range without any gizmos which you need a tricorder to work with. Oh and with a sensible wheel size.
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  11. Glenngineer

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    I can't imagine a 1300 rolling on 21/18 wheels - those CCs aren't doing you any good in the dirt. I think big bike will probably fit the 90/10 touring bike mold, like a GSA or Tenere.

    The 7-800 might be the best thing ever. I'm hoping for a 990/690 hybrid, a bike that would spank the F800 and 800XCs of the world in the dirt.
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  12. kirb

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    KTM hasn't been too gadget happy, but FI is here to stay. You won't see carbs on a new road-able bike.

    Mapping it correctly is the key (or at least give access to a non-EPA map like EBR did with the Buell 1125).
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    I just might pony up for a V-twin 800 Adventure, if I can ever save up some $$. That might be a _sweet_ ride.

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    YES!!!! I'm in for one of those 800 models :D

    My guess is that if KTM does make 3 new adventure models with 1200, 1000 and 700/800 engines, the 1200 will be a more road oriented adventurebike like the 1200GS and the 1200 tenere. The 1000 would be a more direct replacement of the current 990 and the 700/800 a lighter adventure such as the 800gs and the triumph tiger 800xc.

    They might even make more bikes with the 700/800 engine like triumph have done. And mayby a twin DUKE 800. 800 super motard like ducati and aprilia.

    I would love more midsized bikes by KTM :D
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    This might explain why KTM never made a 690 Adventure. An 800 Adventure is in the works... awesome.
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    I will have me one of those 800 thanks. :clap:clap Just hope it is light and with the same spec suspension.
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    A 1200 for the GS/Multistrada target audience and a set of lighter 800cc bikes, ideally with a more sporty/offroad/rally touch - including a 800 Super Enduro.

    That would be sweet.
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    Who said 800 SE - V twin with a decent fuel tank (@30lt), current 990 suspension and chassis of the 690 RR and i go get the visa card immediately. Now im just drooling.......:tb

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    With fuel prices a concern for the future I just don't see a 1200cc adventure bike as a well thought out future direction. The big reason I see for this continuing pursuit of increased engine capacity is the loss in engine efficiency due to ever increasingly stringent emission legislation.

    Manufacturers are faced with the decision between costly added technology and high spec materials to cope with material stress (elevated temps, high compression) or go to a lower tech solution of simply adding engine capacity - price points rule.

    Perhaps electric motorcycle technology will be sufficiently mature in 3 - 5 years to provide the high reliability that is absolutely necessary for a true adventure motorcycle.
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  20. McBoab

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    My XT1200Z has sofar proved to be in the same ball park as my now ex XT660Z Tenere I can get 50mpg out of either or less if my throttle hand is so inclined. I rarely broke 40+ on my old ktm950 (1st year ver) and similarly seemed to get no better than 43mpg on a 1150GSA, except when I went to spain on it and it inexplicably jumped to ~50mpg whilst there... never worked out why as it returned to 40's on my return to blighty.
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