New Aerostich Roadcrafter city and tactical suits

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  1. ph0rk

    ph0rk Doesn't Care

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    No, it can't. Maybe you have a fairing, but ride for 2+ hours in a heavy downpour and those zippers will leak. Everything does, sooner or later, and for a WP suit that is also protective without WP liners, it is really, really hard to top the RC.


    It doesn't take much water to make your whole arm or chest wet, and in 40 degree weather like we have now that's a major problem.







    I've been through some crazy stuff with my one piece with the RiRi zipper, and its been fine so far. I hear the fabric becomes less WP over time, but I haven't seen it yet, except for a couple spots where the DWR doesn't work quite like it did new. (that is, water doesn't bead, but still stays outside the goretex).

    Aerostich will know for sure, but if I had to guess, I'd say you probably need to go to the two piece light (or: the RC city) for alterations.
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  2. Garp

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    If it was possible i would swear the Goretex in my Roadcrafter was installed backwards. Water gets in without a problem, but once it's in it stays and I get slowly steamed. I drove through 1 hour of heavy rain in Georgia and was still wet 12 hours later when I got to Homestead FL.
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  3. ph0rk

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    Yeah, that's just how goretex "works", if it has a leak - doesn't take much of a leak at all, either.

    Theoretically you'd eventually evaporate the water away with your body heat, but the leak keeps letting more in.
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  4. HaChayalBoded

    HaChayalBoded Brooklyn Bored

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    Was that you following me on the 3 back to back SS1000 rides from NY to Los Angeles or vice versa a couple weeks later?

    The 800 or so miles between Chicago and NYC was pouring nonstop so I couldn't see too well in my mirrors. Sorry if I didn't waive.

    Yes, I had a fairing on those two trips. But I don't on my FZ or my old Hawk or my old Monster or my Armstrong\Harley or my old cruiser.
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  5. nhbubba

    nhbubba Internet Tough Guy

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    I can see this. I spent weeks (months?!) hemming and hawing over which is right for me. 1 or 2-piece? Regular, light, or ultra-light? Or maybe one of the Darien bits? Which pads? What options?

    <gulp> Now, what size?!? :eek1

    It is intimidating. Add that I can't go to the store and physically touch any of it and it complicates things even further.

    That said, no two buyers are the same.

    Which Tourmaster jacket is this, specifically?

    I have some Tourmaster and Cortech gear. For the money, I like it. I bought most of it on closeouts and sales, which sweetens the deal even more. (Although I don't remember any single piece costing less than $100, 'cept the gloves.)

    But it has always been a compromise. None of it is actually waterproof. And even to get it close you have to fumble with zip in/out liners. Plus he fit is a compromise as well. If you fit their stuff off the shelf, you are golden. Unfortunately I do not. And none of it is designed to be altered.

    I just ordered a brand new RC 'classic' 2-piece. The fit/sample suit arrives tomorrow. I can't wait.
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  6. nhbubba

    nhbubba Internet Tough Guy

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    My question is this: WTF is the 'Supernyl' in the city?!? And why would I want it?
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  7. riceaterslc

    riceaterslc Urinal Cake Engineer

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    I respectfully disagree. I had a RC 2 piece that loved to let water in my crotch within minutes of a sprinkle and leave me with a wet pooper for the entire ride. Shortest ride I noticed this was in a 10 minute sprinkle. In hour+ long rides I would have to stand up on the pegs and let the water drain into my waterproof boots. Cold wet feet were better than cold wet crotch/butt.

    I stopped wearing the RC and opted for my summer mesh gear with an Outdoor Research gore-tex paclite jacket and 15 year old Marmot gore-tex pants over the gear. I wore this combination from Savannah GA to Rochester NY (~950 miles) on my Street Triple with nary a leak, and it rained every single mile for that 13 hours. If OR can get it right on a $200 shell with YKK waterproof zippers on the front, pit zips and chest pocket mesh vents, why can't Aerostich?

    I loved the way the RC suit fit and the quality was top notch. Just fix the damn zippers!
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  8. nhbubba

    nhbubba Internet Tough Guy

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    Did yours have the 'new' zippers?
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  9. riceaterslc

    riceaterslc Urinal Cake Engineer

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    not sure, it was a standard 2 piece RC purchased in NOV or DEC of '10...
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  10. 10/10ths

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    ....I own two One-Piece Roadcrafters. The original version.

    I have one that is custom tailored for me, bought new, and fits me tightly, with zero extra fabric flapping in the breeze.

    I wear this one on my Ducati Monster and on my Honda RC51.

    The second one I bought used from an inmate here, in Hi-Viz, and I just sent it off to Aerostich and had them install the full length under arm gusset, install the heated gear pass-through port, and launder it with their water repellant wash.

    I have followed their directions and seam sealed all the stitching with their Seam Grip product.

    I wear the Hi-Viz with my full Gerbings heated kit on my V-Strom.

    So, I have one winter and one summer suit.

    I live in Louisiana.

    It rains here ALL THE TIME.

    It's hot here 90% of the time.

    It's humid here ALL THE TIME.

    My suits have NEVER leaked.

    In the summer, you tuck your gloves inside your sleeves, open the vents, and zip the collar open, and you are fine in 100 degree weather as long as you are moving.

    I have to believe that all the people who post on this forum have never taken the time to seam seal the stitching on their Roadcrafters. Aerostich is very specific in their instructions that this is necessary if you want total water proofness on a naked bike in heavy rain.

    Additionally, I gotta believe that these same people have never used the wash-in water repellant or sprayed their suits with water repellant like Scotch Guard. It is necessary for maximum effectiveness of the water proofing.

    Again, all of this info is clearly spelled out in the instructions you get with the suit.

    I am confident that all of the negative posts about the 'stich suits are from folks who don't take the time to read and follow the instructions.

    As far as the venting goes, it depends on your bike, windshield, riding position, etc., but you can get MASSIVE air flow through the sleeves and arm pit vents and out the back vent.

    On an adventure bike like my V-Strom, if I just put my left hand on me left hip, i can force a huge amount of air through my back and out the suit and cool off while on a long highway stretch.

    If you just raise your wrists a bit on the grips, you can force huge amounts of air up your sleeves and through your arm pits and out the back.

    The beuaty of the 'stich, is that you can put it on and take it off in 10 seconds, don't have to stop for the weather, and can just put it on over a business suit, ride cross country through all kinds of weather, hop off your bike and unzip and be in a business meeting fresh and ready to get that promotion from your killer presentation like you arrived in a limo.

    Cheers.

    :deal
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  11. bomber60015

    bomber60015 Anatomically Correct

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    my 15 year old Two Piece RC does not leak, so long as I:

    wash it and re-treat it annually

    seal the seams as suggested

    Hit high impact areas with camp dry or scotch guard every so often (upper arms, butt)

    most importantly, make certain the the fabric does NOT form a bowl over my crotch when I sit on the bike . . . this take a couple of seconds every time I get back on the bike after a stop.

    YMMV, clearly, but I've not seen a highly venbted jacket that will hold a candle to my old RC in an all day frong strangler . . . it is really hard to make an opening water resistant.

    Interesting conversation though . . . it seem many would like to see "more," or "different" without being able to really define it . . . tough target for a manufacturer to hit ;-}
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  12. kltk1

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    Sorry to revive an old thread. Was doing some research on the RC City they're coming out with and read through this thread. It's my understanding that Gore owns the Lock-Out zippers that are supposed to be true waterproof zips. Any idea why Aerostich doesn't use them in RC models? And maybe add a few to open up the jacket a little more? Seems like lack of venting is a big issue with owners of RC suits. And what's tolerable to one is not necessarily going to work for another. Having said that, I like a jacket that opens up as much as possible as I like to feel the air on me as much a possible. Mesh jackets are great for this but require layers and/or a rainsuit.

    As was noted earlier, as a street only rider, my dream suit from 'Stich would be a textile version of the Transit with zips on the sleeves, as well as, under the arms, on the chest and on the back. Not unlike the venting on a Klim Badlands Pro. But more of a street cut. Like many here I'm an odd size and prefer, when I'm spending $1500+ for a riding outfit that I can get it custom fit. Made in USA helps too.
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  13. kltk1

    kltk1 Been here awhile

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    subscribing to thread.
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  14. nhbubba

    nhbubba Internet Tough Guy

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    Isn't the Transit a Gore-tex'ified leather version of the 2-part RC suit?
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  15. kltk1

    kltk1 Been here awhile

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    No. The Transit is a completely unique outfit. It is the leather bonded Gore-tex though.

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  16. nhbubba

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    Meh. They look remarkably similar to me.

    The sleeve details look almost the same; a velcro cuff adjuster with a ~6" zipper pull to cinch shut. Just like the RC.

    http://www.aerostich.com/media/cata...8eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/3/134_5d_2.jpg
    http://www.aerostich.com/media/cata...ab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/2/4/248_6c_1_1.jpg

    I guess I am not picturing what would be unique about a Transit textile suit. They are both not-quite 3/4 length, both have similar cuts and similar features. Maybe loose the pockets?!

    Doesn't mater really. Their catalog is what it is. It either works for you or it doesn't.
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  17. kltk1

    kltk1 Been here awhile

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    The RC is an oversuit. The Transit suit is a tighter cut. The pants are designed to be worn as pants as opposed to overpants.
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  18. pgejman@mac.com

    pgejman@mac.com Adventurer

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    Hi. Is the protection provided by the classical RC 1-piece much better than the tactical RC? I am asking because the tactical does not have the ballistic patches. Thanks for any information.
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  19. nhbubba

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    The ballistic patches are a heavier cordora material than the suit itself. The full RC with the ballistic panels will offer the most abrasive protection.

    Is the bare 500 weight fabric in the tactical suit enough without the ballistics? That's for you to judge.
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