New and improved KTM690 WUNDERFEST

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by crankshaft, Sep 6, 2011.

  1. andykeck

    andykeck Been here awhile

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    Thanks. I think I'm gonna pull the trigger on the Vortex, but I'm out of town parts of three of the next four weeks so no hurry right now. Plus I'm _still_ waiting on the replacement fuel injector I ordered I don't know how long ago.

    Here's the thing I don't quite understand, maybe someone has seen this, or maybe an answer lived in our dear departed threadfest. If I do the 15 minute idle, then go for a ride, the jerkiness is very nearly gone. But after a couple of hours of riding, it comes back. It's not a heat thing as the problem persists through all subsequent rides until I redo the 15 minute thing. It's like it learns how to behave, but it can't remember the particulars very long. Strange.
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  2. KC-10ENG

    KC-10ENG Been here awhile

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    Subscribe to the Wunderfest KTM 690 thread.:norton
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  3. blakrj

    blakrj Need to ride

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    +1 on the new thread, but I do hope that the old one at least gets put back so that all the other posts referencing the useful info still make sense. Seems a shame to lose all that knowledge or have to start from scratch again
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  4. blakrj

    blakrj Need to ride

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    ...seems I got wiped out too - my post count got reset to 0. Oh well, guess it really is a fresh start
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  5. giodog2000

    giodog2000 Been here awhile

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    Fresh start....I'm in!
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  6. Maurizio

    Maurizio 2 smoker

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    Here I am...:1drink
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  7. ABuck99

    ABuck99 0.0

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    WTF happened to our mega thread- Chernobyled?

    A little advance notice of the disassembly and whereabouts would have been nice- but glad to have found you guys-:clap

    weird, my post count is all messed up too- its like that thread never existed?

    MR Admin- whats the deal?
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  8. giodog2000

    giodog2000 Been here awhile

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    So it's time to change my rear tire...The stock MT21 was great and would buy that again but right now , it is unavailable and will only be available in October. I need a tire now.

    What would you guys go for? Keep in mind I am mostly offroad but I do have to ride sometimes for hours to go to my trails. I was very impressed with the MT21 in rain so I want something in that line....

    Thanks.
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  9. Evil Invader

    Evil Invader Been here awhile

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    What oil do you guys use? :wink:


    Sorry...:lol3

    Hey Gio: Try the Michelin t-63. Nice allround tire.
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  10. giodog2000

    giodog2000 Been here awhile

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    T-63 will look into that ...


    I use the recomended Motorex oil...
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  11. blakrj

    blakrj Need to ride

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    Just had a look, as was about to get some Michelin Deserts. See that the T-63's are based on the Desert. Not too clear what the difference is for the rear (looks like almost identical tread pattern). Front is very different. Seems the Desert is good for around 6,000kms or so. Mmmmm - decisions
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  12. Tarheel Wheeler

    Tarheel Wheeler Around

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    Get a MotoZ from Crankshaft when his shipment comes in. Great tires.
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  13. olec

    olec Rookie

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    I know exactly what you're talking about. Add the stalling issues on top, and there you go (I had problems with that). When you order the Vortex, state if you have an open airbox setup or stock. You will get 10 useful maps configured for you airbox setup. I have the closed / stock, and so is my Vortex configured.
    If it doesn't take all the jerkyness away, it's definitely day and night difference. I have found two maps I am using for my type of riding and it's the power map 1 and traction map 1. They can be put on a handlebar switch and they're very different. As the power map just feels like an explosion from bottom, the traction map really hesitates and smooths out everything from low to mid. The traction map makes it nice again in traffic. It doesn't go completely away, but good enough. Another factor is that the EPT is totally bypassed, so it makes it pure throttle by wire" and the throttle is superlight compared to how it was.

    Anyway, all stalling has gone away also, so I cannot be more happy. It also lifts the front much easier in power map mode. Send an email to Richard at Vortex and discuss which maps will fit your bike setup. He is really kind and service minded.
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  14. andykeck

    andykeck Been here awhile

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  15. Seth S

    Seth S Will _____ for _____

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    Ok...well didn't see this thread was started. I started another but I think ill try to use it as a database of the good info that comes from the regular chat thread.
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  16. CHRIS_D

    CHRIS_D Been here awhile

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    Crank any luck with replaciing the FP yet?
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  17. Uller

    Uller Long timer

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    Seth - I like the idea of a discussion thread different from a info thread. With that said, I'll remove my post from yestday and move it here.....

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    Can I state that my bike is now running for longer than 2 seconds yet?????? :clap

    I've still got to put the rest of the bike together, do the 15 min thing and ride it for a couple of miles but, it is running.

    I owe all of the contributors a big thanks, especially Beany because he won the "Guess the Cause" game. My apparent issue was indeed the ground group in the wiring harness next to the battery. I guess it got pulled or something during one of the tank raisings.

    I've got the weekend free and a new set of tires to use up. :evil

    P.S. : Seth - I like the new start. Thanks for getting it going. I'll dig into my files and see if I have saved anything of use from the megathread.
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  18. stingraysktm

    stingraysktm Adventurer

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    I finally decided to pull the trigger on a new exhaust system for my 690 and went with the Wings unit. I had been concerned about sending money to Slovenia and was glad to find a US distributor by the name of Adventure Rider Warehouse. The price was fair and the costumer service was great. I had thought about getting the Akrapovic but since it was priced around $950 I went the Wings which was only $550.

    The install was straight forward and only took about 2hrs, some of that time was spent taking pictures and video to show the temperature and audio differences between the stock pipe and the Wings pipe. Here’s a before and after picture:

    Stock Exhaust:
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    Wings Exhaust:
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    After the install I ran the 15 minute idle procedure so the EFI would self adjust to the new exhaust. I did not make any changes to the EFI mapping. Afterwards I rode the bike and felt a noticeable throttle response improvement as well as an improved bottom end. I’m still running the stock intake filter so plan to change that next.

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    I weighed each exhaust and found the Wings to be approximately half the weight of the stock pipe. The stocker is 10.26lbs vs 4.51lbs for the Wings.

    Stock:
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    The Wings pipe is not much louder than the stock pipe but does have a throatier sound. I&#8217;m using the large end cap in this video:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhP3GqIpek8
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    The Wings unit runs much cooler than the stock unit. Here&#8217;s a video of a temperature test that I ran:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqJc1pFE3jk
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    Overall I&#8217;m very happy with the Wings exhaust as I feel it makes the bike run better but more importantly I like the lower operating temperature. The stock pipe was melting everything that came in contact with it. I&#8217;ve read where riders where having a hard time finding a place to buy a Wings unit in the US, I highly recommend the Adventure Riders Warehouse. They provided the product at a fair price with great service.
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  19. FriedDuck

    FriedDuck Why die all tensed up?

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    Get the suspension back yet? I wanna hear a ride report!
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  20. Lumpyboy

    Lumpyboy Adventurer

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    I have had the Wings pipe for 3 years. Great pipe. No remap.

    yup, post counts reset. this is #1 for me again.
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